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solo379
Joined: 14 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:15 am Post subject: |
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Doctor Who wrote: [
Case in point the "Run Compliant In June" Good plan that went nowhere.
And how's that OOIDA fault? :roll:
At least we tryed to do something! Just was not enough support from the majority! :sad: |
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Lady18wheels
Joined: 07 Sep 2004
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Location: near Birmingham AL
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Doc, thanks for taking the time to reply - even if was negative. I'm not sure I think they have any real clout yet either, but I think they're making inch by inch headway in Washington DC.
So many unfair things have happened to me since I became a driver. Where or who can I turn to for REAL justice or redress? The ATA could care less about drivers - from personal experience.
The Federal Labor Board has ALWAYS sided with the company when an individual case has made it that far. In fact, in one of the decisions I researched, the board quoted verbatim from the company's website!
The FMCSA (even if they are "friendlier") is useless to me, as is DOT; FHWA; FTA; NHTSA; CVSA; you name it.
I just wish we, as drivers, had a very loud, very powerful voice where it counts - in DC. And OOIDA seems to be the best hope. |
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BanditsCousin
Joined: 05 Jun 2004
Posts: 3301
Location: Chicago, IL
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| Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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| At the very least, you get LandLine sent to your house for free! 8) |
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katesdad
Joined: 11 Feb 2005
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Location: CENTRAL IL.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 9:53 pm Post subject: Whatever |
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| I joined, I dont expect things to change overnight. But they have gone to bat for some people that needed help fighting companies with bad business practices. |
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Silent Runner
Joined: 21 Aug 2003
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:23 am Post subject: |
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Quote: But it isn't just about being a member. You have to do your part to.
Quote: Case in point the "Run Compliant In June" Good plan that went nowhere. Why run compliant just one month out of 12? Didn't notice any decrease in supplies and from unofficial observation there where just as many trucks running in June as there were during the other months.
Very few things work the very first time they're tried. Where would we be if all ideas were scrapped when it didn't work the first time? And do you really want an organization that has the ability to force you to take part in whatever they are doing? It was every driver's option to run compliant. Evidently it was one of those "Let's see if it works for everyone else first" things.
You're entitled to your opinion on this, Doc, but I really hope it doesn't persuade too many to follow your example. |
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Doctor Who
Joined: 02 Dec 2002
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Location: Middlesex, North Carolina
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: You're entitled to your opinion on this, Doc, but I really hope it doesn't persuade too many to follow your example.
Gee all I did was answer a challange and as for others being persuaded, it is doubtful.
For the What It's Worth Department: A sign of a good writer is the ability to take the opposite view in any given discussion, whether it be pro or con. If it ruffles feathers, so be it. There are two sides to every issue and it is rather interesting to watch and read the reactions.
With all that said I still have no use for OOIDA, period.. End of story! |
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Silent Runner
Joined: 21 Aug 2003
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| Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:02 am Post subject: |
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No feathers ruffled here. Like I said, you're entitled to your opinion, as I am to mine. You're also entitled to choose whether or not to be a member of OOIDA or any other organization.
But, whether you believe it or not, your opinion on this board does persuade people. Sometimes it persuades them to follow you, sometimes it persuades them to choose the opposite idea.
Quote: For the What It's Worth Department: A sign of a good writer is the ability to take the opposite view in any given discussion, whether it be pro or con. If it ruffles feathers, so be it. There are two sides to every issue and it is rather interesting to watch and read the reactions.
As for that....I didn't realize this was a writing contest. If that's what it is, I am way out of my league. If you're trying to start a debate I'm still out of my league but will give it a shot. Keep in mind I was never a debate student, so do not know all the proper rules of engagement.
Please give us some of your "con" views besides the "Run Compliant" not working out.
My answer to that one: OOIDA can not lock you out of your truck. They threw out the idea, it seemed like a good one so it was tried. One month was chosen due to the fact that drivers of all kinds believe they have to run non-compliant in order to make a living. Had it been said to run compliant from now on, no one would have tried it. Little bites when trying something new.
Several did it and still manage to do it most of the time. Several tried to do it and failed, due to circumstances mostly beyond their control. But at least they tried and are continuing to try. Most said to heck with it, let the rest of the industry fix the problems and then I'll step in and reap the benefits. With that attitude there will not be any benefits.
We will continue to sit at the docks with very little or no pay for it. We will continue to pay the fines and court costs for over weights, speeding tickets to get there on time, log violations, etc. If we were to run compliant, none of those would be that big of an issue. Freight would get so backed up (in a short amount of time) that the docks would have to become more efficient. No violations - no fines. Enough rest to get safely through the day!! We may have to see a pinch in our pocketbooks for a little while, but that may be what it is going to take to get this fixed.
Personally, (this is my opinion, not necessarily that of OOIDA) I think if you can't handle the cash crunch from 1 month of running legal, you have no business in this business. You don't have enough positive cash flow or income to handle anything out of the ordinary. You are already one step from going under. That, or you are one the of trucks out there that really is running on no sleep or some kind of upper to keep you going. The one that needs put out of business before you kill someone. There again, you are one step from being buried.
Several "pro" views have already been mentioned. Feel free to contest them. Not just the good doctor, Quote: With all that said I still have no use for OOIDA, period.. End of story!
but anyone wanting to comment, pro or con. |
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rockefeller
Joined: 01 Feb 2002
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Location: Western,Ky.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Have been and will continue to be a member. I've called them a few times and they've been very helpful. |
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Blacksheep
Joined: 16 Feb 2005
Posts: 1047
Location: On the edge of insanity.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:35 pm Post subject: Re: OOIDA - Are you a member? I'm thinking about joining |
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Lady18wheels wrote: Just curious to know how many here are members. I'm thinking about joining.
http://www.ooida.com/
I am now, money well spent. |
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rikki_359
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
Posts: 134
Location: N of Ft Worth, TX
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| Member 4260, thank you. While they have not helped my industry any, rock hauling, they have done good. I write to my legislators everytime they give me the heads up to. Most of the time the legislators do what they way despite the public opinion, not OOIDA's fault. There's still a long way to goooooooo. |
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