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sonic2wb
Joined: 17 Sep 2004
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Location: Morganton, NC
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| Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 4:36 pm Post subject: More Questions |
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| First of all, I want to thank everyone here for being so kind and helpful for all of us newbies. I was reading the DOT CDL Manuall and got to noticeing that theres NO menton of the weight rules as in how much per axle or total weight. Can someone help me on that part? |
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Ironturkey
Joined: 06 Jul 2003
Posts: 462
Location: Lost in the subconscious
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| Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Every state has its own wieght regs. and where you can go and cannot go. |
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Lady18wheels
Joined: 07 Sep 2004
Posts: 1448
Location: near Birmingham AL
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| Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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Generally,
80,000 gross max without a permit. Pulling a tandem axle trailer - 12,000 on the steer axle; 34,000 on the drives; and 34,000 on the trailer. |
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Shipwreck110257
Joined: 27 Aug 2004
Posts: 77
Location: Virginia
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| Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 5:32 pm Post subject: Scales. |
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Anything under 20,000 lbs, thats centered fairly well in the trailer, I never bother to scale.
I say this because the average 53 foot trailer weighs pretty close to 13,000 lbs ( not including reefers).
So it would be almost technically impossible to be overweight, even on on
one set of axles.
Anything over 20,000 lbs. should be weighed to be absolutely sure. The company will reimburse you anyways.
Don't forget,..... they fine you for total weight, or being overweight on individual axles. So don't be foolish and think that your not overweight with 25,000 lbs on the trailer !!!!!!!
Alot of loads will be sealed trailers that you pick up at the yard. The bills may indicate 25,000 lbs.................................BUT WHAT IF ITS ALL IN THE NOSE OF THE TRAILER................hehehehehee.
I hope this helps. Be safe ! |
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Lady18wheels
Joined: 07 Sep 2004
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Location: near Birmingham AL
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| Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: BUT WHAT IF ITS ALL IN THE NOSE OF THE TRAILER
and you're full of fuel :shock:
Check this out maybe
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rulesregs/fmcsr/regs/658.htm |
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HotIceRef1
Joined: 16 Aug 2004
Posts: 85
Location: Buckeye State
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| Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 11:37 pm Post subject: to scale or not to scale |
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| We have to weigh every load over 34,000 lbs. I am finding if you count each hole as 300 lbs instead of like 500, it works better. I was taught to figure 500 for each hole, but a senior guy told me to count em as 300 and since i started doing that, I move it once, reweigh and I'm good to go. |
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Lady18wheels
Joined: 07 Sep 2004
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Location: near Birmingham AL
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| Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:46 am Post subject: |
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| I count 300 too. I remember which way to go like this: Put the wheels under the weight. |
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Truckdobe
Joined: 15 Feb 2004
Posts: 235
Location: Gaffney, SC
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| Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 10:38 am Post subject: |
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Federal law mandates the states must allow 80,000 gross on approved routes; with 12,000 steer, 34,000 tandem, and 20,000 per single. These are minimum requirements, the states may allow more. The biggest differences you'll find are on steer axle allowances.
The front of the Rand McNally atlas gives each states max. allowables for each axle on STATE roads (not part of national network). They also cover allowable lengths on non national network roads. |
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Lady18wheels
Joined: 07 Sep 2004
Posts: 1448
Location: near Birmingham AL
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| Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 2:34 am Post subject: |
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Quote: Federal law mandates the states must allow 80,000 gross on approved routes; with 12,000 steer, 34,000 tandem, and 20,000 per single. These are minimum requirements
So THIS is why 80,000 is always "safe". Good to know. Thanks. |
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littleman2
Joined: 03 Jul 2004
Posts: 1954
Location: Washington State
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| Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 11:21 am Post subject: |
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| I used to haul paper loads big rolls and one time it was aloaded wrong my gross was 90000 lbs my permit alowed for 86000. needles to say did not take that load. scale every time. |
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