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mccfry
Joined: 03 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject: traffic ticket ? |
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Unbelievable! Just finished Schneider two week academy, and was driving thru the Ontario mills parking lot and got popped for stop sign ticket. I don’t have a cdl yet so I guess I can pay the ticket off before I get it and still go to traffic school? The training instructor tells me after the fact that several students have been popped there, I wandered right into the spiders web. If you are in the Ontario area, beware of the Ontario mills shopping mall.
Any advice out there on how I should handle this ? |
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HWD
Joined: 24 Apr 2008
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Location: Norf Kakalacky
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Call the court that has jurisdiction over that area and ask them what the penalty is. If it's the first one you ever had they may cut you some slack. |
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Windwalker
Joined: 22 Oct 2005
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Location: Holiday, FL
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Ontario Mills has had a MAJOR HARD-ON for trucks and truck drivers for a few years now. At one time, trucks would park there, then they started towing trucks off to impound. I've heard a number of stories and read others in some of the trucking magazines. It was to the point that one local driver wouldn't even go into the mall area. He parked his truck at the curb on the side of the street and made the customer come out there to get their product. I think that was about 4 or 5 years ago now. But, companies keep sending drivers there to face it all.
Yours is the first I've heard in a couple of years, now, but I doubt that the local attitude has changed any. In the past two years, I've turned down two loads going there and dispatch has decided not to try to send me there anymore. It's the BEST WAY to fight it. NO SERVICE. refuse to go there. |
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mccfry
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| Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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I was in my personal vehicle, I havent tested for my cdl yet, I recieved the ticket on the 5th of july and it still hasnt been reported to the court, I was hoping to pay it off before this friday when I test for my cdl.
[quote="Windwalker"]Ontario Mills has had a [u]MAJOR HARD-ON[/u] for trucks and truck drivers for a few years now. At one time, trucks would park there, then they started towing trucks off to impound. I've heard a number of stories and read others in some of the trucking magazines. It was to the point that one local driver wouldn't even go into the mall area. He parked his truck at the curb on the side of the street and made the customer come out there to get their product. I think that was about 4 or 5 years ago now. But, companies keep sending drivers there to face it all.
Yours is the first I've heard in a couple of years, now, but I doubt that the local attitude has changed any. In the past two years, I've turned down two loads going there and dispatch has decided not to try to send me there anymore. It's the BEST WAY to fight it. NO SERVICE. refuse to go there.[/quote] |
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cdreid
Joined: 21 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:09 pm Post subject: id |
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| id geet a lawyer to maki it disappear if you can afford it. if not talk to the da or whatever |
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Syncrosonix
Joined: 16 Feb 2008
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Location: scottsdale, arizona
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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| that mall is the devil! STAY AWAY FROM IT! |
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inmate1577
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I dont know about the rest of the country, but since when could you get a citation for running a stop sign, or any other infraction on PRIVATE PROPERTY.
Hell, I've been riding for 30 years and watched drag races and guys pulling wheelies in parking lots with the cops watching and they cant do anything about it unless the property owner calls them. |
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mccfry
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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a couple of my training instructors said the same thing, it is private property, he doesnt have the authority to issue tickets there.
[quote="inmate1577"]I dont know about the rest of the country, but since when could you get a citation for running a stop sign, or any other infraction on PRIVATE PROPERTY.
Hell, I've been riding for 30 years and watched drag races and guys pulling wheelies in parking lots with the cops watching and they cant do anything about it unless the property owner calls them.[/quote] |
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Jimbpard
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Location: Irwin. PA
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inmate1577 wrote: they cant do anything about it unless the property owner calls them.
Apparently that is the case then.
I know there is a grocery store/plaza near me and one of the managers husband is a cop. He's constantly there hiding between cars on his motorcycle, nailing someone for running the couple stop signs they have in there. |
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mccfry
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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They might just be preying on peoples ignorance of the law.
[quote="Jimbpard"][quote="inmate1577"]they cant do anything about it unless the property owner calls them.[/quote]
Apparently that is the case then.
I know there is a grocery store/plaza near me and one of the managers husband is a cop. He's constantly there hiding between cars on his motorcycle, nailing someone for running the couple stop signs they have in there.[/quote] |
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chubyboy
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Location: Appleton, MN
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being im not familiar with OM, did you come to a stop and is there even a stop sign there?
if u came to a stop or there isnt a sign, i would have said **** You to the cop and tore the ticket up in his face. |
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bigpapa7272
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Location: Baltimore
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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| one of the better laws in MD says that a sign must be posted. If you run a stop sign in a mall parking lot nothing can be done to you unless the mall calls a traffic complaint in to the police same with parking tickets, private property owner must complain to the police if there isnt a sign posted it will get thrown out of court (at least in baltimore county) |
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chubyboy
Joined: 10 Jul 2008
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Location: Appleton, MN
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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as another thing to do...for anyone else that drives through there...
get going the parking lot speed limit and then stop COMPLETELY quickly at the sign...do that for a time and if the cops come up to u, give them the finger and drive off...
the problem is that the cops prey on everyone else b/c they think they r all high and mighty...all they are is a person whom constantly carries around a gun and a peice of tin on there chest...whoop dee doo...wow... |
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mccfry
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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| The ticket has finally been posted, it will cost me $165 plus traffic school, at least I can take care of it before I get my CDL. |
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harleypiper
Joined: 11 Sep 2007
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Location: Rhode Island
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inmate1577 wrote: I dont know about the rest of the country, but since when could you get a citation for running a stop sign, or any other infraction on PRIVATE PROPERTY.
Hell, I've been riding for 30 years and watched drag races and guys pulling wheelies in parking lots with the cops watching and they cant do anything about it unless the property owner calls them.
Don't know where you got that from, there are several state and local ordinances that cover private property ie, due care by driver, reckless operation, there are also sections that pertain to strictly motorcycle such as how people are to ride solo and with passangers. That type of reckless operation is just probable cause for the stop and then the violations just begin. |
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