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GMAN



Joined: 13 Feb 2005
Posts: 9882
Location: Tennessee

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:12 am    Post subject: National Speed Limit  

I just heard this morning that there is now a push for a national speed limit. Of course, the ATA is all for it. There is no national fuel shortage. There is no need for a national speed limit. The number I heard was 60 mph. Last time we had a national speed limit it was 55 mph. :roll: If they are successful it will cost this country a fortune just to change all the road signs. We REALLY need to have that expense.
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Doghouse



Joined: 21 Mar 2007
Posts: 975

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:12 am    Post subject:  

I'm not opposed to speed limits being right where they are, I think like you said they don't consider all the costs. There was an article in Landline where a guy claims lowering the speed limit would only cause other drivers to use more fuel to get aroung truck,...causing the same amount of fuel consumption as a whole.
To me 55 mph works, but thats just me. I don't like being told to wear a helmet (which I do) or a seat belt (which I do)
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tahawus



Joined: 03 Feb 2007
Posts: 70
Location: Long Island, NY

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:47 am    Post subject:  

The last article I read on this was in the landline mag and they said they wanted 65 for all vehicles and governers on trucks at 68mph. The comparison was that a truck at 75mph burns 27% more fuel than at 65. Well I personally dont see they majority of trucks going 75 so the comparion is not to valid. They also said it would save 2.8 billion gals of diesal in a decade and 8.7 billion gals of gasoline. It would seem to me that they should go after 4 wheelers just as hard as they are on trucks being the biggest impact of fuel savings would be made by reducing car speed. Why dont they govern all new cars at 68 also if they want to for trucks? In my opinion the ATA does not represent the small comapnys and owner operators I would bet some big outfits are making nice contrbutions to them to try to get the rules they operate opposed on everyone else to make the playing field level.
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allan5oh



Joined: 26 Aug 2005
Posts: 2233
Location: jackassville (winnipeg, mb)

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:54 am    Post subject:  

Why not enforce the speed limits already in place?
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Heavy Duty



Joined: 04 Sep 2007
Posts: 144

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:10 pm    Post subject:  

http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story.asp?S=8663818&nav=8H3x

Been there done that, we don't need it again. this might cause a bigger shut down than the fuel prices. Just think about running west at 55, it ain't fun, ot think of the whole country being like Ohio.
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NotSteve



Joined: 20 Mar 2007
Posts: 751
Location: Merrimack New Hampshire

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:20 pm    Post subject:  

I wouldn't mind 60. That's normally what I do. It's almost the slowest I can go in 10th but not lugging it.
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HWD



Joined: 24 Apr 2008
Posts: 125
Location: Norf Kakalacky

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:00 pm    Post subject:  

allan5oh wrote: Why not enforce the speed limits already in place?

Now THAT would fatten up the state money bin!

Where I live people take the posted limit as a suggestion, and ignore it. You will quite literally take an SUV in the rear end if you do the posted speed limit around here. The speed limits around here on I-26 are 60 then 65 for a while, on I-40 it's 60, then 65, then 50 for big trucks through the gorge into TN. The slowest car does about 74. Big trucks stick to the limit for the most part (except for this one jerk-off in a burgundy Pete 379 who tries to set land/speed records pulling his empty logging trailer, switching lanes, tailgating), but the point is these people around here nowadays have nowhere to be and they're late!

Enforcement around here is always lacking, the Highway Patrol is really only visible a couple days a year, with three troopers killed on the same 3 mile stretch of I-40 in the past three years (two run over, one shot) I think they're scared to pull people over right now...other places you never see them. Contrast that to the Piedmont where I saw 10 of them in a 5 mile stretch! Also, the little trick of sitting empty patrol cars in the median doesn't work anymore either.

If Slick Willy Clinton hadn't vetoed drilling in ANWR 13 years ago we would not be in this mess right now...had to protect the mosquito colonies, that's more important than driving our economy.
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b00m



Joined: 07 Apr 2008
Posts: 26

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:37 pm    Post subject:  

I dont think a change in speed limit will do something.A change in the attitude will probably do some difference!Too bad the government can't mess with that :shock:
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Longsnowsm



Joined: 29 Dec 2005
Posts: 563

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:34 pm    Post subject:  

I'm with NotSteve on this one. I wouldn't mind everyone slowing down to 60 mph. I have already slowed to these speeds anyway.

Just some food for thought... The government is just like most people. They never do anything until it is too late or it is an emergency. Planning and proactive are not in their vocabulary. So if they are seriously talking about reducing the national speed limit then there is a lot more going on than we have been told by the talking heads on TV and radio. So maybe there really is a supply in-balance that is on the near horizon. It is reason for concern in my book.

Longsnowsm
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Ronin



Joined: 30 May 2008
Posts: 127

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:13 pm    Post subject:  

Heavy Duty wrote: http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story.asp?S=8663818&nav=8H3x

Been there done that, we don't need it again. this might cause a bigger shut down than the fuel prices. Just think about running west at 55, it ain't fun, ot think of the whole country being like Ohio.

In short, F$%^ THAT!

65 mph max for all vehicles and all speeding fines doubled for 4 wheelers. problem solved.
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GMAN



Joined: 13 Feb 2005
Posts: 9882
Location: Tennessee

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:40 am    Post subject:  

The 55 mph speed limit was put in place due to a perceived shortage. It didn't work then and it won't work now. The ATA is pushing this due to so resistance for the government mandated speed limiters. It is a way to get in the back door. The national speed limit didn't work before and it won't work now. It will reduce efficiency in moving freight. It will put further pressure on a perceived driver shortage.
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NotSteve



Joined: 20 Mar 2007
Posts: 751
Location: Merrimack New Hampshire

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:11 am    Post subject:  

Go to Australia. They have one of the toughest speeding laws. The fine is like $1,000 and after 2 you loose your license automatically for a year.

I'm not sure on the amounts or time but it's really really hefty. The reason I know is because I was on a tour and the whole highway was doing the speed limit which I thought was strange and asked about it.
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