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Oklahoma Declares Sovereignty
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:44 pm    Post subject: Oklahoma Declares Sovereignty  

http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=274054

"STATE OF OKLAHOMA
2nd Session of the 51st Legislature (2008)
HOUSE JOINT
RESOLUTION 1089 By: Key
AS INTRODUCED
A Joint Resolution claiming sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over certain powers; serving notice to the federal government to cease and desist certain mandates; and directing distribution."
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stormothecentury



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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:16 pm    Post subject:  

The Tenth Amendment wrote: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


Oklahoma didn't declare that they're seceding, or anything of the sort - it sounds like they just want the federal government to butt out.
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:14 pm    Post subject:  

stormothecentury wrote: The Tenth Amendment wrote: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


Oklahoma didn't declare that they're seceding, or anything of the sort - it sounds like they just want the federal government to butt out. I know the popularity of this thread is dismal, but no need to change the subject...
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Twilight Flyer



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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:27 am    Post subject:  

Get back to me when California secedes, so I can get to work organizing the parades and get the government started on making it a national holiday.
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Malaki86



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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:58 am    Post subject:  

Twilight Flyer wrote: Get back to me when California secedes, so I can get to work organizing the parades and get the government started on making it a national holiday.

LOL
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Ronin



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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:23 am    Post subject:  

Twilight Flyer wrote: Get back to me when California secedes, so I can get to work organizing the parades and get the government started on making it a national holiday.

BRILLIANT!!!
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:48 pm    Post subject:  

The Right to Secede
How can the federal government be prevented from usurping powers that the Constitution doesn’t grant to it?
It’s an alarming fact that few Americans ask this question anymore.

http://www.sobran.com/columns/1999-2001/990930.shtml



Vermont Passes Resolution To Secede From The US
"Whenever any form of government becomes destructive, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it and to institute new government."

http://www.rense.com/general68/secede.htm



Lakota Sioux Secede From US, Declare Independence
“The United State of America is an outlaw nation, we now know. We’ve understood that as a people for 155 years.”

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/12/21/5946/
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worldisnotenough



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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:04 am    Post subject:  

Twilight Flyer wrote: Get back to me when California secedes, so I can get to work organizing the parades and get the government started on making it a national holiday.

I second that, I will buy the first thousand Kegs. If it would happen. And I don't even drink!
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GMAN



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Location: Tennessee

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:29 am    Post subject:  

I think New York should secede, too. But then that would call for independent thinking. Perhaps we should have Washington DC to secede.

This movement is GREAT!! I have no doubt that the U.S. government will come down hard on these people and states should this start to get grass roots support. It should be a wake up call to the "powers that be."
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bluebeetle



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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:43 am    Post subject:  

California doesn't need to secede....it just needs to be treated like Mexico. Drop yard in Reno and Bullhead City and they can come get their own damn freight!
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Fancy_Maneuvers



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Location: Do you mean today?

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:09 pm    Post subject:  

Any state willing to sell -- or have sold -- their roadways to foreign gazillionaires should secede and go ahead and claim loyalty to their true masters... I mean, how do you sell an American roadway to a foreign corporation for 75 years?... so that when the literal crap hits the fan we're all long dead and our kids kidz have to deal with the windfall... I suppose that was the point... and also how do you continue with this pushing of the thing when the majority of your constituents are literally *begging* you not to do it {ahem, cough... Pennsylvania cough}?????
:roll:

And California.. weren't they once falling off into the ocean? WTH ever happened with that :?:

Assert your POWERS Oklahoma! I didn't think they were seceding... Could be they're just reminding this thing-that-used-to-be known as the Federal Government that there is a living, breathing entity known as The Constitution {gasp} that the forefathers intended (and designed) to be in effect well past the year 2008... gasp gasp gasp
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