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Rev.Vassago
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:33 am Post subject: Another reason for you to hate Pilot |
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As if there weren't enough....
I stopped at a Pilot in Cambridge, OH last night to take a shower, and was met with something that has made me decide to act.
We all know that most of the truck stops sell those siphon devices, even though it is simply making it easier for thieves to steal fuel. They've been doing it for years. But what I saw yesterday made my blood boil. There, on the shelf, was a package which had just about every device needed to pick an automobile lock, with instructions on how to do it. The packaging boasted that you could pick a lock with ease. On the back of the packaging, it clearly stated "Manufacturer is not responsible for illegal use".
Why on earth Pilot would feel that having a device such as this on their store shelves would be acceptable is beyond me, but as of now I will no longer patronize any Pilot Travel Center until I have received notice that this device is no longer on their store shelves.
I have contacted Pilot, and I suggest you do the same. You can contact them here.
I also plan to contact all the trucking publications regarding this. When a truck stop puts its customers at risk by allowing items such as this on their store shelves, it is quite clear that even though they have never cared about those customers, now they want to cause harm to come to them. |
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BanditsCousin
Joined: 05 Jun 2004
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Location: Chicago, IL
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:50 am Post subject: |
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| Then hate Love's too. I bought the slim jim kit there for 9.99 or 19.99 (whichever it was). |
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Rev.Vassago
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:55 am Post subject: |
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BanditsCousin wrote: Then hate Love's too. I bought the slim jim kit there for 9.99 or 19.99 (whichever it was).
Extracurricular activities??? :lol: |
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BanditsCousin
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Not really, but I did open a helper's car door when he locked his keys in his car after a job last summer.
I sent a bill to Pilot for a new pair of Etnies when a pump malfunctioned in Wendover NV last month. I turned my pump on and the passenger side pump started spewing like a gusher and it wasn't even off the hook yet and the nozle was flipped up (off position). I also sent a bill for the truck wash, but I haven't hear back yet. management there was a joke and din't even apologize. |
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Mr. Ford95
Joined: 19 Apr 2005
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Location: Orange, VA
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Just because they have those starter kits doesn't mean the user is going to be successful. The pro's(repo men and locksmiths) take years to hone their craft on how to get by each and every lock they come upon. I bet if I bought one of them gadgets I would cut my hands up on the first use and then throw it away. The pro's use very little tools, only a pick or two.
I have a homemade slim-jim but I don't use it for opening people's doors unless they are truly locked out. If I'm not sure of the person I offer to call the police since they also carry slim-jims and will gladly come open your door. |
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mommee
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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Mr. Ford95 wrote: Just because they have those starter kits doesn't mean the user is going to be successful. The pro's(repo men and locksmiths) take years to hone their craft on how to get by each and every lock they come upon. I bet if I bought one of them gadgets I would cut my hands up on the first use and then throw it away. The pro's use very little tools, only a pick or two.
And how do you know this, hmmm? :wink: |
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Malaki86
Joined: 28 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Hell - I can open a locked car in about 30 seconds with a wire coat hanger. |
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Mr. Ford95
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Know what mommee? That the pro's only need 2 tools, from watching TV and repo men in person. :D
What really sucks about my homemade slim-jim is when I lock myself out and it's in my trunk. :oops: :lol: |
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mommee
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Mr. Ford-
I believe you. :wink: |
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ben45750
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: Another reason for you to hate Pilot |
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Rev.Vassago wrote: Why on earth Pilot would feel that having a device such as this on their store shelves would be acceptable is beyond me
They probably carry it because they sell them? I think it would be pretty unacceptable if they carried something they didn't sell?
Good luck Rev! I doubt they will take you very seriously? I mean you only run 40,000 miles a year so your not spending that much money with them anyways. :wink: |
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Malaki86
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| Unless you count me buying a coffee and a sandwich from Pilot's on occasion, they don't make any money from me either. I couldn't tell you the last time I pulled into a Pilot for fuel. |
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Double R
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Does stopping to take a leak count as patornizing Pilot? Since that is all I do there :lol: . I have used Pilot ONCE to fuel at, and only once :twisted: |
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Uturn2001
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: I offer to call the police since they also carry slim-jims and will gladly come open your door.
More and more police departments won't do this unless it is an emergency. |
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Windwalker
Joined: 22 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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Mr. Ford95 wrote: Just because they have those starter kits doesn't mean the user is going to be successful. The pro's(repo men and locksmiths) take years to hone their craft on how to get by each and every lock they come upon. I bet if I bought one of them gadgets I would cut my hands up on the first use and then throw it away. The pro's use very little tools, only a pick or two.
I have a homemade slim-jim but I don't use it for opening people's doors unless they are truly locked out. If I'm not sure of the person I offer to call the police since they also carry slim-jims and will gladly come open your door.
Just for the sake of argument...
On my very first attempt, I made a lock pick out of an old hacksaw blade, and for a month and a half, I was able to pick any lock I came across, or any ignition switch I wanted. Then, I found out that if the police find any of that on you without you being in the business, you can be in really big trouble. I destroyed it and have not made one since then. But, I have found out that the key from my screen door will unlock one of the old Freightliner cabovers. The ignition key from a Renault has been known to open a Freightliner door. I did that with the driver standing next to me. She would not believe it and made me go around the other side and open up the passenger's side too. And, at the yard, one day, I opened the door for one of the dispatchers when the police and a locksmith were both there and were not able to do so.
So, I'm afraid you are WRONG about the "years of practice" to hone their skills. I've worked with a man that had a locksmithing business. There is only one lock that can not be picked with relative ease. That is the one with the "DIMPLES" on both sides, and both edges of the key. Any duplicate MUST come from the factory. The rest only keep the honest people honest.
However, I DO NOT APPROVE of PILOT selling anything that will allow anyone to get past any security device. |
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Windwalker
Joined: 22 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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I did, however, send PILOT an email stating that I would no longer buy any fuel from them if they continue to sell those devices.
Oh... Was I supposed to tell them that I NEVER fuel at a PILOT regardless??? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: 8) |
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