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TRIP PLANNING/LOGGING EXERCISE
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headborg



Joined: 06 Nov 2007
Posts: 1072

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 3:00 pm    Post subject: TRIP PLANNING/LOGGING EXERCISE  

Ok, here's one for you:

1) You're empty and starting from: Edwardsville, IL can start at 8pm on day#1. You have 2 hrs remaining on your 14hr clock( both of which can be driving)

The Trip:

Edwardsville, IL

Deadhead= 244

Load: Manteno, IL Day#2 6pm

235 miles to stop#1

Stop#1 Peosta, Ia Day#3 7am

195 miles to Final

Final: Ankeny, Ia Day#3 11am

Now, final perimeters-

1)as stated above- on day#1 you have 2 hours remaining before you must take a 10hr break.

2) you must wash out your trailer at a Blue Beacon Truck wash before arriving at shipper.

3) you must show "checking In" on duty not driving/ be at Shipper at 6pm on day#2 else it's a service failure.
customer does not have load finished loading until 9pm on day#2
you must leave customer's property with load at 9pm.

4) stop#1- customer takes exactly 45minutes to unload.


good luck!

p.s. let me know if you split your sleeper or not
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Walking Eagle



Joined: 02 Jan 2006
Posts: 340
Location: Normaly on the road

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 3:30 pm    Post subject:  

You find, on the map, a truck stop before stop one and go off duty. Then you go 15 or 30 to load for 15 minutes. Then you have 15 loading then you go ???? to a truck stop just before your first stop. Then show 15 (?) to get to the stop, 15 unload then onto the last. Who logs washouts ?? No wonder newbie drivers don't make money !!!!!
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Double L



Joined: 26 Sep 2007
Posts: 899
Location: Southern Illinois

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 3:35 pm    Post subject:  

Since your in Edwardsville, there is a Blue Beacon/Speed Co across from the Flying J off of I-270 at exit 3.
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Walking Eagle



Joined: 02 Jan 2006
Posts: 340
Location: Normaly on the road

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 3:42 pm    Post subject:  

Obviously a total newbie, or ex union driver, that doesn't know how to work their log book !!
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Rawlco



Joined: 25 Jan 2006
Posts: 1115
Location: Central Maine

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 9:37 pm    Post subject:  

Lets see:
Drive 8pm to 10 pm day 1, park for 10 hours
Drive 8am to 10:30 am day 2 finding a wash out bay enroute.
Park at shipper 10:30 am to 8:30 pm getting 10 hour break
log 30 minutes load and pti 8:30 to 9pm
Arrive at stop 1 at 1 am and get some sleep or get unloaded early.
Unload at stop 1 6:45 to 7:30 am. (If they are late getting you unloaded the lateness of stop 2 is not your fault. If they are late take a full 8.5 (split sleeper) hours at stop 1 leaving at 9:30 am and deliver stop2 12:30 to 1pm)
Driving to stop 2 7:30 to 10:30 am
Unload at stop 2 10:30 to 11 am and take your break.

Yup it sucks but that is life in trucking. The next question is how much of this info are you going to have beforehand? I will admit that given only the load appt time and delivery times I would have blown it not leaving enough time for a full break at the shipper.

The alternate would be if you have already waited several hours to get this load info after getting empty. If say you got empty at 5pm on day 1 I would have completed my ten hour break getting started at 3 am heading for the shipper and getting the washout, arriving at the shipper by 8am.
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headborg



Joined: 06 Nov 2007
Posts: 1072

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:28 pm    Post subject:  

Double L wrote: Since your in Edwardsville, there is a Blue Beacon/Speed Co across from the Flying J off of I-270 at exit 3.

Since when?


there is a blue beacon truckwash:

Effingham, Il

Bloomington, IL

Monee, IL
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headborg



Joined: 06 Nov 2007
Posts: 1072

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:31 pm    Post subject:  

Walking Eagle wrote: You find, on the map, a truck stop before stop one and go off duty. Then you go 15 or 30 to load for 15 minutes. Then you have 15 loading then you go ???? to a truck stop just before your first stop. Then show 15 (?) to get to the stop, 15 unload then onto the last. Who logs washouts ?? No wonder newbie drivers don't make money !!!!!


now you can't just log what you want--and make it "look" good-- you have to log legal--- and I told you "when" and exactly how many miles between the points-- and you obviously didn't actually work the math---

so you get 10 safety points and a 24hr shut down.
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headborg



Joined: 06 Nov 2007
Posts: 1072

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:48 pm    Post subject:  

Rawlco wrote: Lets see:
Drive 8pm to 10 pm day 1, park for 10 hours
Drive 8am to 10:30 am day 2 finding a wash out bay enroute.
Park at shipper 10:30 am to 8:30 pm getting 10 hour break
log 30 minutes load and pti 8:30 to 9pm
Arrive at stop 1 at 1 am and get some sleep or get unloaded early.
Unload at stop 1 6:45 to 7:30 am. (If they are late getting you unloaded the lateness of stop 2 is not your fault. If they are late take a full 8.5 (split sleeper) hours at stop 1 leaving at 9:30 am and deliver stop2 12:30 to 1pm)
Driving to stop 2 7:30 to 10:30 am
Unload at stop 2 10:30 to 11 am and take your break.

Yup it sucks but that is life in trucking. The next question is how much of this info are you going to have beforehand? I will admit that given only the load appt time and delivery times I would have blown it not leaving enough time for a full break at the shipper.

The alternate would be if you have already waited several hours to get this load info after getting empty. If say you got empty at 5pm on day 1 I would have completed my ten hour break getting started at 3 am heading for the shipper and getting the washout, arriving at the shipper by 8am.


Ok, this is better-- you put a little more thought in...

ok, which route did you take? and where did you find Truck parking at 10pm in route to shipper? you had a 244 mile deadhead..so you ended up somewhere?

driving the 8am to 10:30 am on day 2 looks great-- and is a good plan

the problem with parking at shipper from 10:30- 8:30 is You're not allowed to show OFF DUTY- when at a customer-- you can show IN Sleeper- but whenever you release your brakes- you've interruped that sleeper berth break. And you have to show 15minutes matching your Arrival Call and loaded call.

You can't show getting unloaded at stop#1-early- because you have a 7am appointment( and they don't actually arrive to unload you-- and they take exactly 45 minutes to unload you. you leave at exactly 7:45am -- you drive exactly 3hrs 15minutes(195miles) and arrive at final exactly at 10:45am.--- But that's a very good plan to get to stop as early as possible.


good job! 10:45am-9pm is a good break at shipper
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RebelDarlin



Joined: 06 Jul 2007
Posts: 1276
Location: Illinois

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:51 pm    Post subject:  

headborg wrote: Double L wrote: Since your in Edwardsville, there is a Blue Beacon/Speed Co across from the Flying J off of I-270 at exit 3.

Since when?


there is a blue beacon truckwash:

Effingham, Il

Bloomington, IL

Monee, IL

Pontoon Beach
Granite City, IL
I-270 & SR 111, Exit 6B
By Flying J
618-931-2591

From http://www.bluebeacon.com/location_list.php?region=North

ANd next time you're in Manteno, stop & say Hi! :wink:
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headborg



Joined: 06 Nov 2007
Posts: 1072

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:57 pm    Post subject:  

RebelDarlin wrote: headborg wrote: Double L wrote: Since your in Edwardsville, there is a Blue Beacon/Speed Co across from the Flying J off of I-270 at exit 3.

Since when?


there is a blue beacon truckwash:

Effingham, Il

Bloomington, IL

Monee, IL

Pontoon Beach
Granite City, IL
I-270 & SR 111, Exit 6B
By Flying J
618-931-2591

From http://www.bluebeacon.com/location_list.php?region=North

ANd next time you're in Manteno, stop & say Hi! :wink:

kick ass-- I stand newly ENLIGHTENED---OK, KICK BUTT- But, now you can't drive a whole 2 hours-- on day#1-- lets say, 30minutes(logged off duty-of course) for that washout-- so you got 1.5hrs to get up the road toward RebelDarlin


P.S. any chance you'll be looking & ware that-- next time I get to Manteno?
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RebelDarlin



Joined: 06 Jul 2007
Posts: 1276
Location: Illinois

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 11:06 pm    Post subject:  

headborg wrote: RebelDarlin wrote: headborg wrote: Double L wrote: Since your in Edwardsville, there is a Blue Beacon/Speed Co across from the Flying J off of I-270 at exit 3.

Since when?


there is a blue beacon truckwash:

Effingham, Il

Bloomington, IL

Monee, IL

Pontoon Beach
Granite City, IL
I-270 & SR 111, Exit 6B
By Flying J
618-931-2591

From http://www.bluebeacon.com/location_list.php?region=North

ANd next time you're in Manteno, stop & say Hi! :wink:

kick ass-- I stand newly ENLIGHTENED---OK, KICK BUTT- But, now you can't drive a whole 2 hours-- on day#1-- lets say, 30minutes(logged off duty-of course) for that washout-- so you got 1.5hrs to get up the road toward RebelDarlin


P.S. any chance you'll be looking & ware that-- next time I get to Manteno?

Never know what I'll be wearing. :wink: Seriously though I've given more drivers directions to Tyson, Sears, Nutri-Sweet and the Swift Terminal than I can count. If you've ever been to the Gas City West of 57 in Manteno, you've probably seen me, I worked there for 3 years. And if you're through here when I'm off work, I'll buy the coffee!
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headborg



Joined: 06 Nov 2007
Posts: 1072

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 11:16 pm    Post subject:  

RebelDarlin wrote: headborg wrote: RebelDarlin wrote: headborg wrote: Double L wrote: Since your in Edwardsville, there is a Blue Beacon/Speed Co across from the Flying J off of I-270 at exit 3.

Since when?


there is a blue beacon truckwash:

Effingham, Il

Bloomington, IL

Monee, IL

Pontoon Beach
Granite City, IL
I-270 & SR 111, Exit 6B
By Flying J
618-931-2591

From http://www.bluebeacon.com/location_list.php?region=North

ANd next time you're in Manteno, stop & say Hi! :wink:

kick ass-- I stand newly ENLIGHTENED---OK, KICK BUTT- But, now you can't drive a whole 2 hours-- on day#1-- lets say, 30minutes(logged off duty-of course) for that washout-- so you got 1.5hrs to get up the road toward RebelDarlin


P.S. any chance you'll be looking & ware that-- next time I get to Manteno?

Never know what I'll be wearing. :wink: Seriously though I've given more drivers directions to Tyson, Sears, Nutri-Sweet and the Swift Terminal than I can count. If you've ever been to the Gas City West of 57 in Manteno, you've probably seen me, I worked there for 3 years. And if you're through here when I'm off work, I'll buy the coffee!


Yeah, I know where that Gas City is-- about the only place around there with any truck parking(limited #)-- I was tempted to ditch it there for a "real' break- after waiting around 4-T's for 8hrs for that load that ran all night. So you still working there? Why buy coffee? how about I buy Dinner? You can do the driving(if you have the car).
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RebelDarlin



Joined: 06 Jul 2007
Posts: 1276
Location: Illinois

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 11:24 pm    Post subject:  

headborg wrote: RebelDarlin wrote: headborg wrote: RebelDarlin wrote: headborg wrote: Double L wrote: Since your in Edwardsville, there is a Blue Beacon/Speed Co across from the Flying J off of I-270 at exit 3.

Since when?


there is a blue beacon truckwash:

Effingham, Il

Bloomington, IL

Monee, IL

Pontoon Beach
Granite City, IL
I-270 & SR 111, Exit 6B
By Flying J
618-931-2591

From http://www.bluebeacon.com/location_list.php?region=North

ANd next time you're in Manteno, stop & say Hi! :wink:

kick ass-- I stand newly ENLIGHTENED---OK, KICK BUTT- But, now you can't drive a whole 2 hours-- on day#1-- lets say, 30minutes(logged off duty-of course) for that washout-- so you got 1.5hrs to get up the road toward RebelDarlin


P.S. any chance you'll be looking & ware that-- next time I get to Manteno?

Never know what I'll be wearing. :wink: Seriously though I've given more drivers directions to Tyson, Sears, Nutri-Sweet and the Swift Terminal than I can count. If you've ever been to the Gas City West of 57 in Manteno, you've probably seen me, I worked there for 3 years. And if you're through here when I'm off work, I'll buy the coffee!


Yeah, I know where that Gas City is-- about the only place around there with any truck parking(limited #)-- I was tempted to ditch it there for a "real' break- after waiting around 4-T's for 8hrs for that load that ran all night. So you still working there? Why buy coffee? how about I buy Dinner? You can do the driving(if you have the car).

No truck parkin anywhere in town so Gas City is about it unless you stay at one of the warehouses. I haven't worked there since last August. Got my CDL and drive local. We'd have to drive, not much open in Manteno after 9pm. It's a sleepy little town. :sad:

Funny story about the Swift Terminal...I applied with Swift online and when they called me they told me the closest terminal was Indianapolis and I would have to go there for training. I asked why I wcouldn't work out of the Manteno Terminal and the recruiter told me they didn't have a terminal here. I told her that I could throw a rock to it from my house. She said she's check into that and I never heard back from her. Duh!
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headborg



Joined: 06 Nov 2007
Posts: 1072

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 11:38 pm    Post subject:  

RebelDarlin wrote: headborg wrote: RebelDarlin wrote: headborg wrote: RebelDarlin wrote: headborg wrote: Double L wrote: Since your in Edwardsville, there is a Blue Beacon/Speed Co across from the Flying J off of I-270 at exit 3.

Since when?


there is a blue beacon truckwash:

Effingham, Il

Bloomington, IL

Monee, IL

Pontoon Beach
Granite City, IL
I-270 & SR 111, Exit 6B
By Flying J
618-931-2591

From http://www.bluebeacon.com/location_list.php?region=North

ANd next time you're in Manteno, stop & say Hi! :wink:

kick ass-- I stand newly ENLIGHTENED---OK, KICK BUTT- But, now you can't drive a whole 2 hours-- on day#1-- lets say, 30minutes(logged off duty-of course) for that washout-- so you got 1.5hrs to get up the road toward RebelDarlin


P.S. any chance you'll be looking & ware that-- next time I get to Manteno?

Never know what I'll be wearing. :wink: Seriously though I've given more drivers directions to Tyson, Sears, Nutri-Sweet and the Swift Terminal than I can count. If you've ever been to the Gas City West of 57 in Manteno, you've probably seen me, I worked there for 3 years. And if you're through here when I'm off work, I'll buy the coffee!


Yeah, I know where that Gas City is-- about the only place around there with any truck parking(limited #)-- I was tempted to ditch it there for a "real' break- after waiting around 4-T's for 8hrs for that load that ran all night. So you still working there? Why buy coffee? how about I buy Dinner? You can do the driving(if you have the car).

No truck parkin anywhere in town so Gas City is about it unless you stay at one of the warehouses. I haven't worked there since last August. Got my CDL and drive local. We'd have to drive, not much open in Manteno after 9pm. It's a sleepy little town. :sad:

Funny story about the Swift Terminal...I applied with Swift online and when they called me they told me the closest terminal was Indianapolis and I would have to go there for training. I asked why I wcouldn't work out of the Manteno Terminal and the recruiter told me they didn't have a terminal here. I told her that I could throw a rock to it from my house. She said she's check into that and I never heard back from her. Duh!

Yeah, recruiter's are funny guys & gals-- they usually get paid "commission" for recruiting drivers for specific OTR & only for certain terminals & regions.... the JBHunt recruiters are the most worthless-- if you ever get on their "call list"-- it just mindlessly dials down this list-- and they set there and b.s. you-- they have radio ads telling about Dedicated Positions-- but when you tell em that's what you're interested in- they tell you they are only recruiting for OTR.

I'll pm you next time I'm heading up that way-- we can try to work something out... usually can drop my trailer at shipper & bob-tail out. But, are there any "ok" restraunts around there-- that allow bob-tail parking?
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Double L



Joined: 26 Sep 2007
Posts: 899
Location: Southern Illinois

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 2:25 pm    Post subject:  

headborg wrote: Double L wrote: Since your in Edwardsville, there is a Blue Beacon/Speed Co across from the Flying J off of I-270 at exit 3.

Since when?


there is a blue beacon truckwash:

Effingham, Il

Bloomington, IL

Monee, IL

Since the beginning of the year!
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