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rank
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| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Post subject: Are rates picking up?? |
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| In the last two weeks I've had calls from 3 new brokers looking for steps and they were paying $3.28, $4.50 & $3.31/mile on ~400 loaded miles. Is it getting better everywhere? |
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BigDiesel
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| Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 12:39 am Post subject: |
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| Rates are picking up IMO. I think the fuel issues, the steering wheel holders going down the tubes and O/O's starting to use the word NO to the borkers are helping..... |
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tweety bird
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| Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 8:46 am Post subject: |
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| Haven't seen an increase in car haul rates- over the past few years our rates were up. But not in the past year. We have the unfortunate privilege of dealing directly with consumers... who don't want to pay more for better service. So we have to weigh raising rates against losing customer. |
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gottaroll
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| Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Texas and Colorado rates still suck, suggest you get paid well going in. Because rates going out are a joke. |
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DD60
Joined: 04 Jun 2006
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Location: Rockwall,Tx
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| Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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gottaroll wrote: Texas and Colorado rates still suck, suggest you get paid well going in. Because rates going out are a joke.
Rates have been picking up out of TX. Mostly because of the nursery season here. Nothing really wrong with rates out of TX right now. |
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DD60
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| Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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BigDiesel wrote: Rates are picking up IMO. I think the fuel issues, the steering wheel holders going down the tubes and O/O's starting to use the word NO to the borkers are helping.....
Hasn't nursery season slowed down up there in OR? Outbound stuff out of OR. seems low right now. CA. ,FL,GA,and TX look like they are getting a rate boost though. |
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Sammonman
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| Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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| All reports say they are inching up not including the fsc. Demand for trucks is starting to rise and perhaps people are finaly saying no to some of the insulting rates. |
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BigDiesel
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| Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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DD60 wrote: BigDiesel wrote: Rates are picking up IMO. I think the fuel issues, the steering wheel holders going down the tubes and O/O's starting to use the word NO to the borkers are helping.....
Hasn't nursery season slowed down up there in OR? Outbound stuff out of OR. seems low right now. CA. ,FL,GA,and TX look like they are getting a rate boost though.
We are pretty much done for the time being for nursery, it will hit again on a smaller scale early fall. |
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no_worries
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| Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Everyone I know running open equipment says that things are looking much better. Reefer rates are up compared to a month ago, but it's due to the season. I'm not convinced they're significantly better than this time any other year...maybe a little. I have talked to a few brokers and shippers over the past few weeks that have said it's getting harder to find trucks. One broker's exact words, "You guys are going to make a lot of money this summer." |
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solo379
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| Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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| I didn't think so... I believe it's more FSC related, weather you call it that, or not... :roll: |
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BigDiesel
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| Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I really don't care too much about FSC. For me it is the rate that matters.... |
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rank
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| Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| I went back and looked at May of '07. Average was $3.41 (4,000 loaded miles). So far in May this year it's $4.46 on 1500 miles. But yeah fuel is up $.30/mile. |
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DD60
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| Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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BigDiesel wrote: I really don't care too much about FSC. For me it is the rate that matters....
Exactly. Who cares if a load paying 2.75pm doesn't include a FSC as compared to a load paying 1.45 with a .54 FSC. |
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rank
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:51 am Post subject: |
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DD60 wrote: BigDiesel wrote: I really don't care too much about FSC. For me it is the rate that matters....
Exactly. Who cares if a load paying 2.75pm doesn't include a FSC as compared to a load paying 1.45 with a .54 FSC.
I care. I would rather see it broken out. Why? Because in 3 months time when fuel is up 10% you can go to the shipper and show them the broker isn't passing on the 10% increase that the shipper has paid. That will really pi$$ a shipper off. |
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BigDiesel
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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rank wrote: DD60 wrote: BigDiesel wrote: I really don't care too much about FSC. For me it is the rate that matters....
Exactly. Who cares if a load paying 2.75pm doesn't include a FSC as compared to a load paying 1.45 with a .54 FSC.
I care. I would rather see it broken out. Why? Because in 3 months time when fuel is up 10% you can go to the shipper and show them the broker isn't passing on the 10% increase that the shipper has paid. That will really pi$$ a shipper off.
If this feel good legislation called the TRUCC act passes, you will not have to worry about the breakout of the FSC, because the FSC will go away........................... |
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