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Here's how I would spec out a new truck
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allan5oh



Joined: 26 Aug 2005
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Location: jackassville (winnipeg, mb)

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:13 pm    Post subject:  

Wow each 1/10th is worth 1400 a year.
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marylandkw



Joined: 06 Sep 2005
Posts: 472
Location: Maryland

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:24 pm    Post subject:  

allan5oh wrote: Wow each 1/10th is worth 1400 a year. Never thought about it that way, kinda makes me feel better as I motor down the highway at 60 in a 65 with swift passing me.
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Doghouse



Joined: 21 Mar 2007
Posts: 875

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:40 pm    Post subject:  

My mileage went up 5/10's in the last month. Now that I'm able to use some downhill momentum to climb the next hill without blowing tires off. Before I had to ride my jake all the way down to keep my speed under 60mph, as soon as I went over 60 for more than 10 minutes,...off came a cap.
My IFTA says I averaged 7.9mpg for the last quarter, which should be fairly accurate since I idled only 25 hrs during that quarter.
I only idled 5 nights the entire winter, I spent less than $100.00 on propane to keep my truck between 65 and 75 degrees, and that also included always having hot water and the stove.
If I had idled it would have cost me over $3,000.00 in fuel,...instead it only cost me $100.00 and if I add the propane unit,tanks, regulators,hoses,..the entire set up cost around $350.00, so thats a whole $450.00 to keep my truck warm all winter, and I was OTR the entire winter, and I used the propane heater all the time the engine was off.
This time out I'll have opened my exhaust up by adding another muffler, reconfiguring my genset mount (so I can use it finally). Also I'm sticking to the East coast, and not crossing the Rockies anymore.
I wanted to get a direct drive tranny, but I ended replacing the one I had with the same model.
Again, I still drive 55 unless I'm rolling through mountains, then I just her her do what she wants.
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allan5oh



Joined: 26 Aug 2005
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Location: jackassville (winnipeg, mb)

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:45 pm    Post subject:  

Doghouse I'm pretty sure you already have a direct drive tranny.
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Doghouse



Joined: 21 Mar 2007
Posts: 875

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:54 pm    Post subject:  

Allan,..I'm really not sure,..I asked for one and the guys who sold me the unit said that 9th was the direct drive gear and 10th was not. Then again,..they were bumbling fools anyway.
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allan5oh



Joined: 26 Aug 2005
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Location: jackassville (winnipeg, mb)

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:57 pm    Post subject:  

You have 2.64's or 2.79's right?

If you have those gears, with an overdrive transmission, your rpms would be ridiculously low in 10th at 60 mph. Around 1000-1100 rpms

What gears and tire size do you have?
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Doghouse



Joined: 21 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:02 pm    Post subject:  

410 rears and 22.5 lowpro's. My rpm at 55 is 1,450
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hamboner



Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Posts: 182

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:08 pm    Post subject:  

marylandkw wrote: Mackman wrote:
Like i always said if you cant make money with a hood then you got some real problems. Says the company driver staring at a dogs butt all day :lol:

I admit I do have a hood but if I could save 1mpg without one I would do it without even thinking about it for a second(for the next truck). Think about it...

100,000 miles at 5mpg=20,000 gallons@$4.25=$85,000
100,000 miles at 6mpg=16,666 gallons@$4.25=$70,830

Straight to your pocket savings of $14,170.

Thats why everything I do behind the wheel is done for improving my MPG.

Couldn't have said it any better than that! I like the hoods as much as anyone but to sacrifice so much in todays economy and fuel prices is ridiculous. I prefer to pocket as much money as i can in any job. I dont have an ego that needs to be justified by driving something everyone else will think is cool. Guess that is why i ride Roadstar instead of a Harley.
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allan5oh



Joined: 26 Aug 2005
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Location: jackassville (winnipeg, mb)

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:10 pm    Post subject:  

Yes that will be overdrive.

You would need to put a direct drive in there AND change the gearset.

If you didn't you'd be at 2100 rpms at 60 mph :P, or 1931 at 55 mph.

You have a 11.1L detroit correct? What are you getting for fuel mileage currently?

Do you find the revs are too high? 1450 sounds good at 55 for that engine.

2.93's would put you at 1380 at 55 mph (with direct drive swap as well)

3.08's would put you at 1451 at 55 mph (again with direct drive)
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special k



Joined: 10 Jul 2005
Posts: 247
Location: Ontario Canada

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:10 pm    Post subject:  

Geez Allan for being such a technical guy WHY aryou calling the wide-based tires SUPER SINGLES?? That was the name for the old high profile singles not the NEW STYLE! OK rant over carry on. LOL
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allan5oh



Joined: 26 Aug 2005
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Location: jackassville (winnipeg, mb)

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:30 pm    Post subject:  

sorry "wide base singles".
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no_worries



Joined: 18 Apr 2006
Posts: 840

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:46 pm    Post subject:  

Most of your specs are pretty much what I've been working on as I look to a new truck this summer or end of the year. Unfortunately, I can't get what I really want...Prostar with the DD15 and the I-shift. Guess I'll have to settle :cry: :lol:
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allan5oh



Joined: 26 Aug 2005
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Location: jackassville (winnipeg, mb)

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:49 pm    Post subject:  

LOL no worries, that's the boat I'm in. Although I think I won't buy a new truck for many moons. My dad was looking at buying, but found a good used truck and went with that.

I think what I would do is wait a year and go with the DD13.
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Orangetxguy



Joined: 23 Jan 2007
Posts: 1495

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:51 pm    Post subject:  

Well...I really do like the looks of the new International "Lonestar". Saw the real deal thursday while in Ft. Wayne IN. Very sleak looking unit. Very comfortable looking interior. The test-driver let me up on the running board to look inside...but wouldn't let me enter the door.

I want one.

Signature 600 Cummins, 13 speed auto, 390 rears, half faring package, 255" wheelbase, "super singles" on the drives, leather package on the interior, 72" sleeper, fridge, apu, and the premium sound system !!!


Gimme that "Binder" now...I'm tellin ya!!!!
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no_worries



Joined: 18 Apr 2006
Posts: 840

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:58 pm    Post subject:  

I'm not sure I want to go with the smaller engine. If everything comes together, I'll be running back and forth between the NW and Chicago...lots of mountains. Truck sales are so slow this year that pricing is pretty attractive. I don't think that's going to be the case next year. Not to mention the fact that interest rates are not likely to stay low. I figure if I buy by the first of next year, running it 3 years allows me to avoid the 2010 engines until they've got 2 years under their belts. I'm more worried about bugs in those engines than I am these new ones now. Plus, as it stands right now I've decided that SCR is looking like the way to go. It won't hurt to give them an extra year or two to build out the infrastructure.
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