Truck Driving Jobs

Evinrude · Joined: 10 May 2007 Posts: 354

VitoCorleone99 wrote: Rev.Vassago wrote: You are only getting a "paycut" on paper. A drop of 2 mph is a whopping 22 miles over the course of an 11 hour tour of duty. And even that assumes you are driving 62 mph from the second you start driving until the second you stop driving, and you are driving the full 11 hours every day. Since we both know neither of those things are true, your "paycut" is negligible at best.
They also neglect to account for the one factor that means more than any phony trucker equation that anyone can draw up - The available freight doesn't always match up exactly right with the hours you have available. The only real impact on a driver's pay that could possibly be caused by a slower truck would be due to having fewer hours available under the 70 hour rule. If the same miles take a longer time, then fewer hours would be left under the 70.

I have yet to hear from someone who can say truthfully, "I would have gotten a 500 mile run today, but they gave me a 460 mile run since that last trip took me an extra 45 minutes." The truth is that if a slower truck ever did cost someone a few bucks, which I'm sure it can from time to time, the driver would never know.

I lost 5mph in January and I have seen no reduction at all in my average miles per week. None. I saw more goofy calculations and rationalizations for how I was getting screwed than I care to count. All wrong. In point of fact it's a minor annoyance, nothing more.

What will happen if they keep turning it down after ever 3 more months or so...just a another miner inconvenience?.....

There is no goofy calculations.. Its simple. Speed multiplied by CPM equals your rate of pay. Reduction of either means less money per hour. You may have lost 5 mph and no reduction of miles, but you work longer hours.

That's like getting paid by the hour and the companies reduces your hourly rate, but says don't worry we are going to let you work more hours to make up your losses.

retiredmb · Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 41 Location: Oregon

It's true that most people won't notice any difference at the end of the week, my question is are the computers in the office being cut back, is the spin on the wrench in the shop being cut back,,,,, and so on, why is it up to Drivers to take the cut back by them selves, they did not effect the cost increases in the price of fuel.

countryhorseman · Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 3:12 pm Post subject:

Don't worry yourself about the 62 mph truck! In a few weeks, you will be able to do a whole 2 mph over the new national speed limit!

There are currently 2 known bills on the federal level, to reduce the federal limit to 60 mph! From what I heard, it has lots of support. So the speed limiter issue that they have been debating, will become reality through those new black on white signs!

For those that think cutting the speed limits on the trucks is on the backs of drivers! Get over it! If the company fails, then your back will be on the street without a job!

Everyone survived the 70's at 55 mph, you will survive this! Have cut the speed back on my truck back on purpose with my foot and shift control! MPG up over 1/2 mpg, and I still get my pickups and deliveries done on time!

VitoCorleone99 · Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 352 Location: Detroit

Evinrude wrote: What will happen if they keep turning it down after ever 3 more months or so...just a another miner inconvenience?.....
At the point that it was more than a minor inconvenience, I would work elsewhere. I do love living in a free country. Free to whine, or free to go elsewhere. Po-tay-to, po-tah-to.

Quote: There is no goofy calculations.. Its simple. Speed multiplied by CPM equals your rate of pay.
No, CPM is the only simple part. Speed is a little different... What is the quadratic equation that describes the acceleration curve of your truck? How about my truck? What is the constant that you use to account for traffic jams and the corresponding reduction in average speed? What about mountains? If you lose 10mph going up, do you know how much speed you would need to gain coming back down to get back to your baseline average? What about lines at fuel stops? What about rainy weather, where everybody is slowed down? Surely your company should raise your CPM in those cases, right?
Quote: Reduction of either means less money per hour. You may have lost 5 mph and no reduction of miles, but you work longer hours.
No, actually I don't. I've found that my time has been utilized more effectively by the planners in recent months, so I guess I'm just the lucky one who's not being held down by the man. But then again, I've been told all kinds of things on this forum about the hours that I work, so I guess this is nothing new.

Quote: That's like getting paid by the hour and the companies reduces your hourly rate, but says don't worry we are going to let you work more hours to make up your losses.
Entitlement mentality is a beautiful thing, but I would suggest that it's more like a company saying that you can pitch in and keep your job or you can walk. Again, free country, there's the door, we all make our own choices.

countryhorseman · Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:57 pm Post subject:

If ya don't like the rules in this playground, go find another! Right! Pretty soon you will run out of playgrounds!

countryhorseman · Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 6:06 pm Post subject:

retiredmb wrote: It's true that most people won't notice any difference at the end of the week, my question is are the computers in the office being cut back, is the spin on the wrench in the shop being cut back,,,,, and so on, why is it up to Drivers to take the cut back by them selves, they did not effect the cost increases in the price of fuel.

If one only had a clue about the workings of a major company, they would not be so prone to gripe about the piddly things! I find that many, not all, could not even manage a small 1, 2, or 10 person business, but yet they think they know what is going on in one with hundreds or even thousands of employees!

Those peoples jobs in the offices and shops depend solely on the production of the drivers that they are responsible for keeping on the road! So what the heck makes one think, that they would penalize the lifelines! Those people have to pay for the same high price fuels, the ever increasing price of food, etc, etc as we behind the wheel of these trucks! They are just as concerned about the number on the paycheck as we are, and in turn, they have to also make sacrifices to save the bottom line!

Quit the d*%& whining, tighten the belt, and do the job you hired on to do, based on the companies policies that your agreed to abide by! If ya don't like it, go to work for McDonalds!

Oh, and while your at it, clean up the foul mouth, trash talking crap on the CB! Crud, now I done got aggrevated about this whining! Grow the H*&^ up people!

BigWheels · Joined: 26 Aug 2006 Posts: 558 Location: Milwaukee, WI

Evinrude wrote: ...But slowing some trucks down scews the rest of us up. Slow truck have a harder time to climb a hill when top out at 55 mpm. And the rest of us make more lane changes to get around these turtles, the time they crest the hill they are doing 35 mph and are causing a back up of a pissed 4 wheelers and truckers make an unsafe environment.

On 65 and 70 mph highways trucks should be able achieve this speed if not find find and alt route.

As a company driver, I depend on the decisions in Corporate to keep my job going strong in a slow economy (didn't say I always agree with those decisions!)

A wise transportation business owner, if he/she has any brains at all, will move heaven and earth to keep the company profitable and keep employees relatively content and secure at their jobs (Granted some business owners could care less about their employees).

As fuel prices increased (and kept increasing), it was only a matter of time before transportation companies started turning down the speed IN ORDER TO REMAIN PROFITABLE for the longer term. After all, you're in business to make money -- not to lose money (As a business owner, you're taking all the risks a business involves. Therefore, you should be well compensated for it).

Although I am no longer OTR, my rig maxes out at a whopping 60 mph -- and a fair amount of my time is spent on the interstate (speed limit = 65 mph). I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, I'm paid by the hour -- so CPM doesn't apply to me. In addition, I find going a little slower causes me to enjoy my job a little bit more (going 10-15 miles over the speed limit does bring stress into one's life). On the other hand, every now and then, I am a wee bit concerned about vehicles whizzing past me at 70-80 MPH. And God help the trucker who is passing me in a 61 mph governed truck with a PO'd convoy behind him!

So, although I'm not thoroughly thrilled about poking along and delaying traffic every now and then, I'm not complaining either...until I attempt passing another 60 mph truck! :x (OK, let the flaming begin....) :wink:

TomB985 · Joined: 14 Sep 2006 Posts: 203 Location: Columbus, OH

Quote: As a company driver, I depend on the decisions in Corporate to keep my job going strong in a slow economy (didn't say I always agree with those decisions!)

A wise transportation business owner, if he/she has any brains at all, will move heaven and earth to keep the company profitable and keep employees relatively content and secure at their jobs (Granted some business owners could care less about their employees).

As fuel prices increased (and kept increasing), it was only a matter of time before transportation companies started turning down the speed IN ORDER TO REMAIN PROFITABLE for the longer term. After all, you're in business to make money -- not to lose money (As a business owner, you're taking all the risks a business involves. Therefore, you should be well compensated for it).

Although I am no longer OTR, my rig maxes out at a whopping 60 mph -- and a fair amount of my time is spent on the interstate (speed limit = 65 mph). I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, I'm paid by the hour -- so CPM doesn't apply to me. In addition, I find going a little slower causes me to enjoy my job a little bit more (going 10-15 miles over the speed limit does bring stress into one's life). On the other hand, every now and then, I am a wee bit concerned about vehicles whizzing past me at 70-80 MPH. And God help the trucker who is passing me in a 61 mph governed truck with a PO'd convoy behind him!

So, although I'm not thoroughly thrilled about poking along and delaying traffic every now and then, I'm not complaining either...until I attempt passing another 60 mph truck! :x (OK, let the flaming begin....) :wink
Naw, you have it all wrong!

It's The Man keeping you down, because all The Man does is screw us working stiffs to make a buck!
:lol:
ain't that right, evinrude?

kips41 · Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Posts: 213 Location: Orange, TX

The best solution is to stop driving for these over the road outfits.

I work for Conway and work both in the city and linehaul. By the hour it's $21 and by the mile it is .50. I do a line run that pays 430 miles and I run 431, the extra mile is driving around the yard.

Now when I work in the city, I am hot, sweaty and dirty at the end of the day, but I get to go home and cleanup in my shower and eat a home cooked meal.

Stop complaining about how bad the OTR companies are and get a better job. Now I know that some of you are OTR thru and thru and that is fine, just don't complain about how bad you have it because you know the drill and the only way that you are going to change anything is by changing employers.

Lunker · Joined: 04 Feb 2007 Posts: 129 Location: Grants Pass, OR.

I'm very happy to help myself keep this job if it means going slower/saving fuel and trying my best to keep the idle time down. It's still hard to believe that in the company yard that I'm spending the night, there are several trucks idling and the outside temp is 70 here in No. Ca at 9pm. There's no humidity and very comfortable temps and still drivers are wasting the company's money. An article I read said that a 1 cent per gallon increase costs the trucking industry $360m more a year overall. My thought on this is why should they feel it's ok to idle? I guess the next option for the company is to start laying off drivers that can't or won't reform to conserve fuel and start hiring drivers that will.

bigtimba · Joined: 10 Sep 2006 Posts: 168

bigtimba wrote: My high-flying 64 mph truck is in today for a B service and will come out a 62. That's alright with me as I've never been a speed demon. What does bother me is that I inherited the truck 10 weeks ago at 6.7 mpg and have since brought it up to 7.4. Instead of a bonus, I get a paycut?

I'm bettin' this speed reduction won't make much of a difference but we'll see.

My freshly serviced truck wasn't cut! You 62 mph folks can eat my dust!

2hellandback · Joined: 26 Dec 2007 Posts: 87 Location: Idaho

Rev.Vassago wrote: bigtimba wrote: My high-flying 64 mph truck is in today for a B service and will come out a 62. That's alright with me as I've never been a speed demon. What does bother me is that I inherited the truck 10 weeks ago at 6.7 mpg and have since brought it up to 7.4. Instead of a bonus, I get a paycut?

You are only getting a "paycut" on paper. A drop of 2 mph is a whopping 22 miles over the course of an 11 hour tour of duty. And even that assumes you are driving 62 mph from the second you start driving until the second you stop driving, and you are driving the full 11 hours every day. Since we both know neither of those things are true, your "paycut" is negligible at best.

Ya and 44 miles at 72 and 66 miles at 82,,, in one day, day after day it adds up FAST!

I told my company when they droped my truck to 62 to screw your .35 cents a mile, pay me 30 bucks an hr NOW! They said ok,,, now im making $30.00 an hour for every hour!

countryhorseman · Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 12:54 pm Post subject:

2hellandback wrote:

Ya and 44 miles at 72 and 66 miles at 82,,, in one day, day after day it adds up FAST!

I told my company when they droped my truck to 62 to screw your .35 cents a mile, pay me 30 bucks an hr NOW! They said ok,,, now im making $30.00 an hour for every hour!

golfhobo · Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 3:41 pm Post subject:

2hellandback wrote: Rev.Vassago wrote: bigtimba wrote: My high-flying 64 mph truck is in today for a B service and will come out a 62. That's alright with me as I've never been a speed demon. What does bother me is that I inherited the truck 10 weeks ago at 6.7 mpg and have since brought it up to 7.4. Instead of a bonus, I get a paycut?

You are only getting a "paycut" on paper. A drop of 2 mph is a whopping 22 miles over the course of an 11 hour tour of duty. And even that assumes you are driving 62 mph from the second you start driving until the second you stop driving, and you are driving the full 11 hours every day. Since we both know neither of those things are true, your "paycut" is negligible at best.

Ya and 44 miles at 72 and 66 miles at 82,,, in one day, day after day it adds up FAST!

I told my company when they droped my truck to 62 to screw your .35 cents a mile, pay me 30 bucks an hr NOW! They said ok,,, now im making $30.00 an hour for every hour!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Someone open a window in here! No wait!! I must be parked next to a Bullhauler! :shock: :lol:

Rev and Vito have it right! It really doesn't matter much if you get 22 miles less per day! MOST of you don't max out your 11 hours anyway.... and it is STILL the same distance/miles to your consignee! Where you will STILL sit and wait for hours to deliver! I SORTA see Evinrude's point that you may work an extra 1/2 hour a day for the same money.... WHEN you are actually driving..... but, I just don't see the HORROR of it! :roll:

Personally, I HATE the idea of turning down the trucks! Mine still does 75, thank God, but that's because y'all want your produce to be FRESH when you buy it! I hope it stays that way, but I will DEAL with it if it goes lower!

I will STILL make the same paycheck for the same weekly run, and I'll just tell my codriver he can't take an hour or two everytime we switch to eat and clear the fog from his brain! :lol:

Or maybe, instead of getting home at 3 a.m. I'll get home at 5! Big deal.... STILL can't buy beer until 7!!

Like someone said about traffic, mountains, rain, etc. You just can't really SAY if the speed reduction will really affect your working time. Not from week to week or day to day! If you worked at Mickey D's and got BUSY one day and had to work a little FASTER, or stand around a little LESS..... would you expect your pay to be adjusted?

I got an idea!...... maybe, if you REALLY don't want to work longer for less money..... you can learn to get the heck IN and OUT of the truckstop or fuel island a little FASTER!! That would make MY day better! Or how about learning to PARK in something less than 20 pullups! :shock: :lol:

Bunch of WUSSES driving trucks these days! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hobo

Evinrude · Joined: 10 May 2007 Posts: 354

BigWheels wrote: Evinrude wrote: ...But slowing some trucks down scews the rest of us up. Slow truck have a harder time to climb a hill when top out at 55 mpm. And the rest of us make more lane changes to get around these turtles, the time they crest the hill they are doing 35 mph and are causing a back up of a pissed 4 wheelers and truckers make an unsafe environment.

On 65 and 70 mph highways trucks should be able achieve this speed if not find find and alt route.

As a company driver, I depend on the decisions in Corporate to keep my job going strong in a slow economy (didn't say I always agree with those decisions!)

A wise transportation business owner, if he/she has any brains at all, will move heaven and earth to keep the company profitable and keep employees relatively content and secure at their jobs (Granted some business owners could care less about their employees).

As fuel prices increased (and kept increasing), it was only a matter of time before transportation companies started turning down the speed IN ORDER TO REMAIN PROFITABLE for the longer term. After all, you're in business to make money -- not to lose money (As a business owner, you're taking all the risks a business involves. Therefore, you should be well compensated for it).

Although I am no longer OTR, my rig maxes out at a whopping 60 mph -- and a fair amount of my time is spent on the interstate (speed limit = 65 mph). I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, I'm paid by the hour -- so CPM doesn't apply to me. In addition, I find going a little slower causes me to enjoy my job a little bit more (going 10-15 miles over the speed limit does bring stress into one's life). On the other hand, every now and then, I am a wee bit concerned about vehicles whizzing past me at 70-80 MPH. And God help the trucker who is passing me in a 61 mph governed truck with a PO'd convoy behind him!

So, although I'm not thoroughly thrilled about poking along and delaying traffic every now and then, I'm not complaining either...until I attempt passing another 60 mph truck! :x (OK, let the flaming begin....) :wink:

Unfortunately I get paid by speed, the faster I go the more I get paid. If got paid by the hour I would drive 5 mph under the limit or what ever my company wants.

Truck Driving Jobs

Trucking Jobs

Truck Drivers

Trucking Companies

Class A Drivers.com