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Whammo
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:29 pm Post subject: Dangerous Roads |
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I've heard about the Donner pass, what other areas are potentially dangerous and why?
I was just on I 80 heading east and nearly got into a collision at the Bartonsville exit. The entrance and exit ramps are way too close to each other. Drivers are trying to merge into traffic from the same 150 yard or so sliver of road that people are trying to exit. |
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CaliTrucker
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not familiar with the exit you are talking about, but in my opinion all roads in California are dangerous...4 wheelers drive like idoits
But then again, its pretty bad everywhere. |
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Whammo
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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CaliTrucker wrote: I'm not familiar with the exit you are talking about, but in my opinion all roads in California are dangerous...4 wheelers drive like idoits
But then again, its pretty bad everywhere.
Actually, this being the 21st century I can show you what I mean:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.997225,-75.269576&spn=0.00302,0.007145&t=h&z=18
It is a standard "half cloverleaf", but somehow it feels more dangerous. You can't really see if someone is trying to merge in until you are on top of them. |
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Orangetxguy
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Donner's Pass isn't a hard pass. Quite easy in my opinion. Lizard Head Pass and Red Mountain in Colorado now.....those are a couple wicked passes. |
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Whammo
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Orangetxguy wrote: Donner's Pass isn't a hard pass. Quite easy in my opinion. Lizard Head Pass and Red Mountain in Colorado now.....those are a couple wicked passes.
I think Donner Pass gets its rep more for it's hazardous winter conditions than merely for steepness of grade. |
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BigDiesel
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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Whammo wrote:
I think Donner Pass gets its rep more for it's hazardous winter conditions than merely for steepness of grade.
No.... Say it ain't so..... :roll: |
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Phantom433a
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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Donner gets its bad rap because of a little party back in the 1800s....finger lickin' good. :lol:
Actually I think one of the worse passes I had to run was up on the A2 in Alaska, in between Salch and Delta Junction. When heading south its 5 miles straight up, once you top the hill its about 1/2 a mile down into a 90 degree left, 4.5 miles straight down into a 90 degree to the right. On the right, as you turn into the left, there is a HUGE pullout....thank god, because alot of the time your trailer is trying to pass you on the right.
How many lugs is on a trailer rim? count as you drive :wink: |
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Chasing Daylight
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Any road can be a dangerous road, all depends on what is happening that moment. Take I10 between Las Cruces and Lordstown, and again between Phoenix and the California line. Longest straightest road you'd ever want to see. But when the wind comes up and the dust starts flying it's absolute hell and has claimed more than a few lives.
By sheer reputation, the passes out West get all the hype. Cabbage, Vail, Donner... Truth is, under good weather most of them are cake. During the iwnter, they can be hairy. Honestly, you don't get into the real eye openers until you get on the two lane roads. And that goes for the East as well as the West. Get off the beaten path in PA or WV and you'll see what I mean. |
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terrylamar
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| US Hwy 191 South from IH 40 to Morenci, AZ. |
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Malaki86
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Just about every road in West Virginia that isn't a 4-lane. Even a couple of the 4-lanes can be fun. |
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Jimbpard
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| Rt. 30 & Rt 31 in Pennsylvania from Ligonier to Breezewood can be pretty bad, if your not careful. |
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mikey4069
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Chasing Daylight wrote: Any road can be a dangerous road, all depends on what is happening that moment. Take I10 between Las Cruces and Lordstown, and again between Phoenix and the California line. Longest straightest road you'd ever want to see. But when the wind comes up and the dust starts flying it's absolute hell and has claimed more than a few lives.
By sheer reputation, the passes out West get all the hype. Cabbage, Vail, Donner... Truth is, under good weather most of them are cake. During the iwnter, they can be hairy. Honestly, you don't get into the real eye openers until you get on the two lane roads. And that goes for the East as well as the West. Get off the beaten path in PA or WV and you'll see what I mean. If your in the right gear should be no problems. I worry more about dangerous drivers than anything. |
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GMAN
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:18 am Post subject: |
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| Monteagle on I-24 in Tennessee can be a bit of a challenge due to the grade. West bound isn't as bad as the eastbound side. Black Mountain on I-40 in North Carolina can get a little harry. Hwy 111 near Dunlap has claimed a lot of trucks over the years. There are a lot of steep roads on both coasts. Some of the two lane roads can be really challenging due to the sharp steep curves and narrow roads, in some cases. |
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CrazyTulip
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| All those mountain passes are OK until they are not. And by that I mean: just take your time going downhill! You probably see as well as I do, the crazy ones who go downhill in George Overdrive (or close to it) and cuss you out for going to slow on the CB. Well, it might go good for them maybe 10 times or maybe even 20 times, but 1 time it'll bite em in the ass because they are cocky and think nothing will happen to em and 'the downgrade is not so bad'. You can go slow down a mountain all the time but too fast only once. Then 4-wheelers are crazy everywhere so you just have to be prepared for anything, that's why you're supposed to be the professional. Never let your guard down and think of every road as dangerous. |
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Whammo
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:38 am Post subject: |
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Chasing Daylight wrote: Any road can be a dangerous road, all depends on what is happening that moment. Take I10 between Las Cruces and Lordstown, and again between Phoenix and the California line. Longest straightest road you'd ever want to see. But when the wind comes up and the dust starts flying it's absolute hell and has claimed more than a few lives.
By sheer reputation, the passes out West get all the hype. Cabbage, Vail, Donner... Truth is, under good weather most of them are cake. During the iwnter, they can be hairy. Honestly, you don't get into the real eye openers until you get on the two lane roads. And that goes for the East as well as the West. Get off the beaten path in PA or WV and you'll see what I mean.
Dust storms eh?
Too many drivers continue to drive either in dangerous weather or tired for purely economic reasons. It isn't worth the extra few dollars if you wind up dead. Pull over and have a coffee or take a nap, for your sake and ours. |
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