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TruckerChris
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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Location: Sacramento, California
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| Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:29 pm Post subject: Gordon gets cut back... |
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I was talking to my friend at GTI today and starting last monday they started turning their trucks back to 63mph. Not all will be done at once obviously, but over the next couple months all the gordon trucks will be running slower. That's fine with me because it means I can pass another company on the road! Now I'm sorta glad that I didn't go back to GTI. I know it's only 2mph less, but 65 is as slow as I want to be governed.
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Brad M
Joined: 23 Apr 2007
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Location: Eugene, OR
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:24 am Post subject: |
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| One reason GTI is slowing their trucks down is because it is costing them $25 million more this year for fuel from a year ago. |
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jedfxg
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Location: se buckeye
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:33 am Post subject: |
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| what people seem to fail to realize is that these big companies turning the trucks down is an effort to save drivers jobs. that two or three mph on all trucks could be a big chunk of change for the entire company. and if two or three mph loses a driver that much money then he/she is not doing a good job in the first place. |
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RottsATruckin
Joined: 02 Apr 2007
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Location: Traer IA
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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3mph times 10 hours per day = 30 miles
times 50 hours on duty/driving per week =150 miles less per weekdriven
times 52 weeks = 7800 less miles driven per year
times 32 cpm =$2496 less pay per year doing the same work
that's $208 less per month you'll get paid.
I don't know about you but my expenses won't allow a reduction of $200 per month, "gee honey, what can we do without, heat or food?"
Are you willing to take a $1 per hour cut in pay? is everybody in the company getting a similar (about 5%) cut or is it just the drivers? will it make the company go out of business if you don't?
Yes fuel is out of sight but the drivers shouldn't have to subsidise the companies lack of management. |
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Mackman
Joined: 14 Sep 2005
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Location: Concordville PA
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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RottsATruckin wrote: Yes fuel is out of sight but the drivers shouldn't have to subsidise the companies lack of management.
AMEN to that.
But hey they are just saving your job. :roll: |
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BigAtrukn
Joined: 03 Nov 2003
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Location: La Habra, CA
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Seems like everyone is turning down. Swift goin down to 63, Gordon goin down to 63, my friend at florilli is getting turned down from 68 to 65. |
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Evinrude
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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jedfxg wrote: what people seem to fail to realize is that these big companies turning the trucks down is an effort to save drivers jobs. that two or three mph on all trucks could be a big chunk of change for the entire company. and if two or three mph loses a driver that much money then he/she is not doing a good job in the first place.
How do slowing 2 or 3 mph translate in "he/she is not doing a good job in the first place"?
I also disagree about companies effort to "save drivers jobs". Companies number goal is to make money not friends. I personally hope all companies that haul cheap freight and pay there drivers low wages go out of business. And I also hope the government stop subsidizing trucking schools and new drivers to get in the business and stop the never ending cycle. I don't believe tax payers shouldn't be flipping the bill for trucking companies that shouldn't be in business. |
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marylandkw
Joined: 06 Sep 2005
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Location: Maryland
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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RottsATruckin wrote: 3mph times 10 hours per day = 30 miles
times 50 hours on duty/driving per week =150 miles less per weekdriven
times 52 weeks = 7800 less miles driven per year
times 32 cpm =$2496 less pay per year doing the same work
that's $208 less per month you'll get paid. I gotta play devils advocate here. Your numbers are assuming you are always moving 10 hours a day, 5 days a week and always at your maximum speed regardless of speed limits. I just don't see it.
RottsATruckin wrote: Are you willing to take a $1 per hour cut in pay? is everybody in the company getting a similar (about 5%) cut or is it just the drivers? will it make the company go out of business if you don't? Management absolutely should also take some kind of pay cut as a sign of support for the drivers.
RottsATruckin wrote: Yes fuel is out of sight but the drivers shouldn't have to subsidise the companies lack of management. I could not agree with you more! |
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RottsATruckin
Joined: 02 Apr 2007
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Location: Traer IA
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:00 am Post subject: |
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[quote="marylandkwI gotta play devils advocate here. Your numbers are assuming you are always moving 10 hours a day, 5 days a week and always at your maximum speed regardless of speed limits. I just don't see it.[/quote]
I agree, these numbers are examples and yours may vary, I tried to use averages, the 30 miles per day are based on reducing your speed 3mph (at any speed) some drivers average more than 50 hours driving per week, most of us take time off and many make more than 32cpm.
If you have a dedicated I5 route your carrier could reduce their trucks to 58 (60 in WA) mph and no driver could rightly complain.
Unless they want to admit to speeding. :wink: |
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TruckerChris
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| I found out last night that Interstate is getting cut back too but only the Solo's and not the teams. |
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glasman2
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Location: Tri-Cities Washington
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:10 am Post subject: |
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kona911 wrote: I found out last night that Interstate is getting cut back too but only the Solo's and not the teams.
wrong.... the word is, they are looking at idle %. those that idle over 30% will be cut back to 65 mph. Dont know where you got your info, I got mine from the office upstairs. Been trying to keep my Idle below 20%. |
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jedfxg
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:03 am Post subject: |
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| maybe just me but you could lose 200 a month, or 1100. which is better? or you could go look for another job instead of complaining about 3 mph...but wait that would take some effort wouldn't it? nevermind. |
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Ian Williams
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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I can understand why companies are doing in with Diesel at $4/gal.
Figure it will cost the typical solo driver $1500 year in reduced earnings while saving the company at least twice that in less fuel burnt. They need to kick back that savings to the driver. Every company should have an obtainable, realistic MPG bonus that is big enough to make the drivers care. Most of us could eek out an extra .3-.5 mpg if we really cared.
Now if they coupled it with a .01-.02 cpm hike it would be a wash. |
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ds18rollin8
Joined: 10 Feb 2006
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Location: Independence , Kentucky
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:22 pm Post subject: GTI |
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| They are also going to park 100 trks. |
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countryhorseman
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Location: The Great State of Texas - Seguin
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm, some drivers are their own worst enemy!
Not sure about Gordon, Interstate, or some of these others, but 2 of the outfits I have worked for with 65 and 68 mph trucks, gave the drivers one heck of a fuel bonus if their mpg averages were above a certain attainable level! Speed, shifting, trip planning and idling are all factors!
Even when my truck were governed, I very seldom ran on the governor! Also, unless temperatures were between 40 and 80 degrees, my truck was shut down when I was asleep! Had a nice quiet 12 volt fan to keep the air moving in the truck, and slept like a baby! When the fuel bonus' came out, it far outweighed the measly loss of revenue because of miles not driven. My current company truck will run 85 mph, my average speed to date on all runs this year, has been 58 mph, and my fuel mileage is up almost 1.5 mpg over the previous driver!
I do know to many drivers that can average much over 58 mph anyway, in OTR work, and most, if they run a legal log book, will find the average speed per shift is closer to 53 or 54!
So the loss of revenue argument does not hold up, when it comes back to companies cutting back the trucks to 62, 63, 0r 65. What they save in fuel, maintenance and insurance can save a outfit a huge chunk of change, that can be passed on to drivers that take care of the equipment!
Too many company drivers have the crap attitude, that it is not my equipment, it is not my money, so why try and save it! When if they would take care of it as if it was theirs, they would see huge rewards in most cases, and prepare them for the ultimate step, of being a O/O!
If I was running a fleet, you can darn sure bet, the drivers that took care of my equipment and looked after expenses like it was their own, would be rewarded, either monetarily, or with the cream of the pick when it came to loads.
Think about it! Want to be your own worst enemy, keep thinking that way! Want to earn the rewards, and prepare yourself for the future, take care of the equipment, plan your runs better, and quit your whinin! |
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