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Fuel prices - international version
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allan5oh



Joined: 26 Aug 2005
Posts: 2151
Location: jackassville (winnipeg, mb)

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:35 pm    Post subject: Fuel prices - international version  

To all the whiners that don't know how to run a business properly, don't know how to negotiate, don't know how to keep costs under control, don't know their own TRUE cost:

Belgium - 7.25
France - 7.63
Germany - 8
Italy - 8.04
Netherlands - 7.74
UK - 8.58
US - 3.97

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/diesel1.html

Times are changing. Change with them or die. That's how capitalism works. If you cannot survive, the government is NOT here to bail you out.
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nsxman2001



Joined: 16 Nov 2005
Posts: 157
Location: Mount Vernon, NY

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Fuel prices - international version  

Belgium - 7.25
France - 7.63
Germany - 8
Italy - 8.04
Netherlands - 7.74
UK - 8.58
US - 3.97

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/diesel1.html

Times are changing. Change with them or die. That's how capitalism works. If you cannot survive, the government is NOT here to bail you out.[/quote]

I have to agree on this one. Me and a friend was just talking about Gas in other countries today and I don't think the prices are NOT going to go down we just have to find ways to deal with the rising cost Period...
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marylandkw



Joined: 06 Sep 2005
Posts: 474
Location: Maryland

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Fuel prices - international version  

allan5oh wrote: To all the whiners that don't know how to run a business properly, don't know how to negotiate, don't know how to keep costs under control, don't know their own TRUE cost:

Belgium - 7.25
France - 7.63
Germany - 8
Italy - 8.04
Netherlands - 7.74
UK - 8.58
US - 3.97

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/diesel1.html

Times are changing. Change with them or die. That's how capitalism works. If you cannot survive, the government is NOT here to bail you out. AMEN!
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scooter823



Joined: 16 Jul 2007
Posts: 96
Location: NC

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:34 pm    Post subject:  

And what Country do you live in. Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why would you want to roll over and take it. Your answer: "Everybody else is doing it." Wake up America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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allan5oh



Joined: 26 Aug 2005
Posts: 2151
Location: jackassville (winnipeg, mb)

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:47 pm    Post subject:  

Roll over and take it?

The only thing that involves me and rolling, is the rolling I'm doing with the EXTRA MONEY I'M MAKING?

Why you ask? It's simple, I get a fuel surcharge. My fuel surcharge is based on 6 mpg. I get more then that. As a matter of fact, I make 1 CPM more every time fuel goes up about 25-30 cents. At around $5 a gallon, the FSC will completely pay for my fuel.

It's called good business.
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scooter823



Joined: 16 Jul 2007
Posts: 96
Location: NC

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:55 pm    Post subject:  

So your a leased operator...............that explains it.
Get back to hauling that cheap freight.
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allan5oh



Joined: 26 Aug 2005
Posts: 2151
Location: jackassville (winnipeg, mb)

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:00 pm    Post subject:  

"cheap freight" LOL

What's your net? After expenses?

Mine is around 85-90 CPM *ALL MILES*.

Is yours more or less?

If it's less, then you make less then someone hauling "cheap freight"(again LOL)

If it's so cheap, why do I get a good fuel surcharge for ALL miles? Something that other operators want the government to step in for? Who hauls the cheap freight? I think it's the guys that are going on strike.
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2hellandback



Joined: 26 Dec 2007
Posts: 87
Location: Idaho

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:07 pm    Post subject:  

How come no mexico or south america countrys isnt mexico like 1.50 and brazil or argentina like 20-30 cents?
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solo379



Joined: 14 Feb 2004
Posts: 3145

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:29 pm    Post subject:  

2hellandback wrote: How come no mexico or south america countrys isnt mexico like 1.50 and brazil or argentina like 20-30 cents?
Cause, you want to compare "apples to apples"! :wink:
scooter823 wrote: So your a leased operator...............that explains it.
Get back to hauling that cheap freight.
Care to post your rates, so we could compare? :P
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2hellandback



Joined: 26 Dec 2007
Posts: 87
Location: Idaho

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:47 pm    Post subject:  

solo379 wrote: 2hellandback wrote: How come no mexico or south america countrys isnt mexico like 1.50 and brazil or argentina like 20-30 cents?
Cause, you want to compare "apples to apples"! :wink:
scooter823 wrote: So your a leased operator...............that explains it.
Get back to hauling that cheap freight.
Care to post your rates, so we could compare? :P

I was refering to this international priceing list it makes the US. look like we have cheap diesel !

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/diesel1.html

I was wondering why they didnt list mexico and south american countrys?
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solo379



Joined: 14 Feb 2004
Posts: 3145

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:41 pm    Post subject:  

2hellandback wrote:

I was wondering why they didnt list mexico and south american countrys?
I got it, that why i said about "apples". You didn't want to compare American wages and Mexican....did you? :)
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2hellandback



Joined: 26 Dec 2007
Posts: 87
Location: Idaho

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:45 pm    Post subject:  

solo379 wrote: 2hellandback wrote:

I was wondering why they didnt list mexico and south american countrys?
I got it, that why i said about "apples". You didn't want to compare American wages and Mexican....did you? :)

Ah senoir i comprendey now!
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rank



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Posts: 1268

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:40 pm    Post subject:  

IMO, comparing Europe to North America os not apples tp apples. Average length of haul has got to be waaaaaay, lower than here.
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solo379



Joined: 14 Feb 2004
Posts: 3145

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:43 am    Post subject:  

rank wrote: IMO, comparing Europe to North America os not apples tp apples. Average length of haul has got to be waaaaaay, lower than here.
I meant cost and quality of living...not trucking.
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rank



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Posts: 1268

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:31 pm    Post subject:  

Oh, OK.

But, measured as a percentage of income, I bet Europeans spend less money on fuel than we do...even with the higher prices.

Winter produce is picked in Leamington, ON and 9 hours later they are on shelves in Montreal, 500 miles away. This happens every day. I wonder if the Euros have to go so far for a tomato.
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