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scooter823
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Maybe I am wording this wrong, this is not about if your making it or not. I run compliant, I run under the speed limit, and I don't haul cheap freight. I am making it. This is neither here nor there. Yes, those that are flying up and down the highways and leaving their trucks running all night, they are a problem, but they won't be around much longer anyway (I hope). What angers me is that we, that is you and me, are paying around $4.00/gal. for fuel, $3.27 give or take for regular unleaded. Something has to be done to stop this :twisted: |
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Twilight Flyer
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: What angers me is that we, that is you and me, are paying around $4.00/gal. for fuel, $3.27 give or take for regular unleaded. Something has to be done to stop this
I don't disagree with that statement...I disagree with all the crying being done for no reason. I work in the office and pay the $3.30 per gallon to fill my car. But I'm not going to stop coming to work because of gas prices, which is in essence what drivers are being asked to do. I'll simply adjust my usage in other ways: ie. run the speed limit, limit my driving, etc.. It's the same with running a business as an O/O. |
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scooter823
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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Crying? I don't see any crying going on. Just think if you were to walk to work for a few days you would not be buying that high priced fuel. That is what I am getting at, shut down and you won't be buying into the big rip off
at the pumps. If you hit them where it hurts, it will get their attention. |
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BigRich
Joined: 26 Mar 2008
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Location: Miami Florida
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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Im about as rookie as they get. You folks posting here have been trucking for years and know alot more about the industry than I do.
Not taking sides, just speaking from a business point of view, I don't see how a strike or shutdown could have a long term positive affect on fuel prices. The reality is, as a petroleum dependant country we have no other option. Okay , lets say we all stop using fuel for a few days, those same loads we missed will be waiting. Someone is going to have to carry the loads. The oil companies got us by the balls and they know it. Those big oil tycoons will laugh at our feebile efforts to stop their profits.
Im not claiming to have an answer to this dilemna, but I think we need something MUCH bigger than a strike....maybe nuclear powered trucks :lol: |
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mike3fan
Joined: 04 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Speculation has driven some of the price increases this time around but,demand is what usually drives prices up by reducing speeds and idle time you could do more than a partial shutdown of a few anger displaced truck drivers.
Who exactly are you trying to get the attention of anyway?The government?The oil companies?Joe average?
It has been suggested and I sorta agree,if you had a rolling show of support(thousands of trucks) around the Washington D.C beltway you would have a much better chance of getting attention. |
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scooter823
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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| The government and oil companies, aren't they one and the same with who we have as our current President? You actually believe this is about supply and demand. Please!!!!!!!! And believe me it is more than just a few angry truck drivers. This is about people in general getting f**ked every time they pump fuel into their vehicles whether or not it is a big truck or a personal vechicle. |
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mike3fan
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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scooter823 wrote: The government and oil companies, aren't they one and the same with who we have as our current President? You actually believe this is about supply and demand. Please!!!!!!!! And believe me it is more than just a few angry truck drivers. This is about people in general getting f**ked every time they pump fuel into their vehicles whether or not it is a big truck or a personal vechicle.
Last I remember this is what free enterprise is all about right?
They have the right to set prices how they see fit and you choose whether or not you want to use those products at that price right?
You really want the government to set prices on goods in this country? what about setting prices that you can charge to haul for? I wonder what anyone wants done really? are they prepared for the slippery slope that it might bring? |
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scooter823
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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I think you are finally getting it, if we all choose not to use that product (fuel) at the given price, then maybe, just maybe they will lower the price.
If everyone continues using their product at this current price then what the hell, they will just raise it even more. When is enough, enough. |
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mike3fan
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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scooter823 wrote: I think you are finally getting it, if we all choose not to use that product (fuel) at the given price, then maybe, just maybe they will lower the price.
If everyone continues using their product at this current price then what the hell, they will just raise it even more. When is enough, enough.
No I have "got" it all along,you just won't see that by reducing consuption on a daily basis you achieve the same results and don't make people interupt their daily lives by doing a foolish shutdown that will do nothing. |
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repete
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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scooter823 wrote: I think you are finally getting it, if we all choose not to use that product (fuel) at the given price, then maybe, just maybe they will lower the price.
If everyone continues using their product at this current price then what the hell, they will just raise it even more. When is enough, enough.
Just wondering , what else are we going to use? Bio-d, I run the north east and haven't seen any here. They got it we need it so we pay for it. Why do you think your getting f^%ked at the pump, it's a free market if you don't like the price keep driveing till ya find some cheaper! |
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scooter823
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| I see nothing "foolish" about it. That is the whole point. Don't you think the rising fuel cost have disrupted the lives of the American people. For what, their monetary gains. Anyway we both have different views on this and that is cool. I do appreciate your input. |
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Rev.Vassago
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
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Location: The other side of the coin
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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scooter823 wrote: Crying? I don't see any crying going on.
You obviously haven't been listening to the CB radio, and the guys whining about the "evil corporations" that are causing all of this.
Quote: Just think if you were to walk to work for a few days you would not be buying that high priced fuel.
That might be difficult to do pulling a 53 foot trailer.
Quote: That is what I am getting at, shut down and you won't be buying into the big rip off
at the pumps.
The major difference is if you walk to work, you still earn. If you shut down, you only hurt yourself.
Quote: If you hit them where it hurts, it will get their attention.
Whose attention are you trying to get? The guy who owns the gas station? |
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Rockatansky
Joined: 23 Feb 2008
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Location: Buckeye, AZ
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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Twilight Flyer wrote:
Actually, it's all about poor decisions being made day in and day out by thousands and thousands of owner operators.
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Unfortunately, it's not a fixable problem.
So as Fozzy says...same poop, different day.
I disagree.
This will be fixed by attrition.
Those with poor business sense shall perish.
The cost of fuel is NOT going down this summer.
The shipping rates will not go up as long as there are enough desperate O/Os to haul anything for nothing.
Eventually enough of these guys running without a profit margin or a safety net in the bank will have trouble ($$$ to fix) and be forced out.
When enough do, the shipping rates will go up.
Pure capitalism doing it's thing.
While I am new to trucking and have a lot to learn, I am not new to small business.
How foolishly many O/O's operate their trucks is stunning.
The fact that they ever made a profit makes me look forward to the day I can be a O/O. |
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Bandit102
Joined: 22 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, the oil prices are Bush's fault. Okay. Study on, Slugger. |
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