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RadioRay
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Fredog
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RadioRay wrote: thanks, that makes it much easier to ignore them (quote)
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Fine! Then using your very OWN logic since you think our laws and regulations don't apply to YOU, then it is OK for me to come in your house---even if I break a window to do it-------take your TV, steal the food out of your fridge, "borrow" your car, damage your house (the window), even steal your identity. OOOHHHHHHHHHH! Now WAIT a minute! That's different, right? Suddenly the law is supposed to work for YOU, but it only applies to you when something wrong is being done to YOU! You are a HYPOCRITE of the highest order! :D :D You want the law to work FOR you, and against those whom your outlaw interference and disobedience may cause difficulty when it comes to radio. You want to STEAL radio resources FROM others, ignore any rules designed to protect others beside yourself. You think that because a radio wave is invisible, is not something you can grab onto, or has a "physical: presence, that, "Waal, ah ain't a-hurtin' nuttin by a-tawkin' on them thar extree channels an' ah cain't he'p it that t'ar other feller is a 'mud duck' thar. So let's just add more f'ar in th' w'ar thar, blow mo' smoke and lock down the channels from 1 thru 40 and then some!"
It is why Part 95, US Code was created; it was to regulate and restrict CB Radio so that the most people could make use of it with a minimum of interference. But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Some of us were "spay-shul thar", an' we have these h'yar spay-shul rah'ts that don't apply to nobuddy but US thar cuz we-uns got mo rah't to tawk on th' reddio thar than them other fellers thar." And how DARE anybody mock the sacred cow called CB radio when it's outlaw minions cause more interference in toto than ALL the rest of the radio services in existence today! Well, THERE'S your answer as to WHY, particularly the licensed amateurs, mock the hell out of CB and CBers. It is the "AH'M SPAY-SHUL" attitude, the flaunting of the rules, the outright disrepect for order and the rights of others, the disobedience to legitimate authority, and I want the law to protect ME, but the HELL with anybody else!
Respect is EARNED, and it is earned when people RETURN respect for the rights and privileges (and radio is a privilege, not a "right', that can be taken away) of other people. The attitude and the stereotype of the trucker and the outlaw CBer is typical, and has been EARNED and imprinted in the public mind. It doesn't do the trucking industry any good, either, AND the mocking and derision often done by the licensed amateur radio community is, furthermore, DESERVED because of that
I-WILL-IGNORE-ANY-LAWS-RESTRICTING-MY-BEHAVIOR, and I-AM-BIGGER-BADDER-AND BETTER-THAN-ANY-REDDIO-OPERATOR-ANYWH'IRS"! Therefore when you hear someone putting down CBers and truck drivers with stereotypical remarks about trailer trash CBers driving a beat up old 'Pony-ack' with twin whups, try to think: WHY does he THINK that? When you hear a ham making fun of your "SWR-ssssssss
" (SWR is NOT plural--it is a singular condition), think about the REAL reason WHY he is smirking at you! When you have asked a question about your "cophased" antennas on your little Toyota 4-wheeler, and the ham SNICKERS at you, wonder WHY instead of figuring he's just a stuck-up ham that thinks he's 'better' than you! Nope, it isn't about "class" or "better", IT IS BECAUSE OF THIS HOPELESS, OUTLAW ATTITUDE THAT SEEMS TO COME WITH THE CB RADIO "CULTURE". Many CBers do NOT engage in this, but enough DO have this, "I'm gonna ignore the law because I'm a CB rambo", that many CB ops get this treatment from the ham public. It was that ham that, perhaps, got REALLY angry when he heard a truck driver, complete with redneck lingo and CB phraseology, ON 10 Meters, and he's out for blood. He becomes willing to travel the interstate just WAITING for that so-n-so he heard on HIS favorite 10M frequency. To HIM, it is the SAME as the criminal that broke into YOUR house and stole your TV; it's the SAME as if it was HIS TV being stolen.
In fact, in the eyes of the law, it IS the same!!!!
RR
you are right, those crimes are all exactly the same!! they all do the same amount of damage to the victims and are all the same in the eyes of the law. that's why they all have the same punishment, because they are all the same.. if you are thinking of talking on a 10 meter without a license, you might as well rape a few people and murder one or two and while you are at it, rob their house, after all, it's the same thing, a common criminal is a common criminal.. |
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RadioRay
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you are right, those crimes are all exactly the same!! they all do the same amount of damage to the victims and are all the same in the eyes of the law. that's why they all have the same punishment, because they are all the same.. if you are thinking of talking on a 10 meter without a license, you might as well rape a few people and murder one or two and while you are at it, rob their house, after all, it's the same thing, a common criminal is a common criminal (quote)
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There are, indeed, varying degrees of punishment, varying degrees of culpability. Yet, when it comes down to it, YOU did say it: "A common criminal is a common criminal". If a thief breaks into your house, he IS a criminal. If he yaps his trap on licensed frequencies without said license, he is STILL a criminal, degree of criminality notwithstanding. The thief is taking something from the victim, a tangible object thereby depriving the victim of the use, enjoyment AND utility of that object.. The thief that filches radio spectrum from legitimate, duly authorized stations is STILL, in essense, a THIEF because he is depriving the rightful user of that which he EARNED, that which he would otherwise be able to utilize if it weren't for the scu----er, uh criminal--I mean THIEF-----. It is curious that it is the CB "service" (more like a DIS-service) that is the ONLY radio group in which an almost-majority of the users think that breaking the law is a virtue. That in itself speaks volumes about the calibre, class, and character of the users or the lack thereof. It hasn't always been this way. :sad:
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Fredog
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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RadioRay wrote: you are right, those crimes are all exactly the same!! they all do the same amount of damage to the victims and are all the same in the eyes of the law. that's why they all have the same punishment, because they are all the same.. if you are thinking of talking on a 10 meter without a license, you might as well rape a few people and murder one or two and while you are at it, rob their house, after all, it's the same thing, a common criminal is a common criminal (quote)
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There are, indeed, varying degrees of punishment, varying degrees of culpability. Yet, when it comes down to it, YOU did say it: "A common criminal is a common criminal". If a thief breaks into your house, he IS a criminal. If he yaps his trap on licensed frequencies without said license, he is STILL a criminal, degree of criminality notwithstanding. The thief is taking something from the victim, a tangible object thereby depriving the victim of the use, enjoyment AND utility of that object.. The thief that filches radio spectrum from legitimate, duly authorized stations is STILL, in essense, a THIEF because he is depriving the rightful user of that which he EARNED, that which he would otherwise be able to utilize if it weren't for the scu----er, uh criminal--I mean THIEF-----. It is curious that it is the CB "service" (more like a DIS-service) that is the ONLY radio group in which an almost-majority of the users think that breaking the law is a virtue. That in itself speaks volumes about the calibre, class, and character of the users or the lack thereof. It hasn't always been this way. :sad:
RR
that's exactly right, if someone illegally yaks on the 10 meter band, that deprives you of using it, because as we all know, only one person can talk on it at a time, the penalty for this should be severe maybe even life in prison along with the other scu---- er criminals... |
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Fredog
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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RadioRay wrote: you are right, those crimes are all exactly the same!! they all do the same amount of damage to the victims and are all the same in the eyes of the law. that's why they all have the same punishment, because they are all the same.. if you are thinking of talking on a 10 meter without a license, you might as well rape a few people and murder one or two and while you are at it, rob their house, after all, it's the same thing, a common criminal is a common criminal (quote)
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There are, indeed, varying degrees of punishment, varying degrees of culpability. Yet, when it comes down to it, YOU did say it: "A common criminal is a common criminal". If a thief breaks into your house, he IS a criminal. If he yaps his trap on licensed frequencies without said license, he is STILL a criminal, degree of criminality notwithstanding. The thief is taking something from the victim, a tangible object thereby depriving the victim of the use, enjoyment AND utility of that object.. The thief that filches radio spectrum from legitimate, duly authorized stations is STILL, in essense, a THIEF because he is depriving the rightful user of that which he EARNED, that which he would otherwise be able to utilize if it weren't for the scu----er, uh criminal--I mean THIEF-----. It is curious that it is the CB "service" (more like a DIS-service) that is the ONLY radio group in which an almost-majority of the users think that breaking the law is a virtue. That in itself speaks volumes about the calibre, class, and character of the users or the lack thereof. It hasn't always been this way. :sad:
RR
hey buddy, got a license?? |
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countryhorseman
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Dang, you really got him upset this time, or his computer has the hicc'ups!
Ray, hello Ray! When are you going to realize these guys are jerking your chain, and many of them have nothing more than a Walmart Special Kraco CB in there trucks!
If you had any sense, and actually read the post, it is obvious that many of them have no idea what the are really talking about when the pull your chain!
The day will come! Just quit being so dang serious about it! You are just falling into the typical CB radio Circle Jerk that occurs at every major truck stop in the country right around dusk and on long weekends!
Back Off a bit and relax!
I too am a Licensed Amateur, and take the hobby seriously! But I am also a professional truck driver, and thus is what makes me money to be able to afford my equipment, and the ability to provide a community service. Your approach on this forum has not ever worked, not will it ever work the way you go about it!
Sometimes I have to wonder if you are just a troll! A figment of one of these others guys imagination used to just jerk chains!
Oh well, have a nice day! |
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Fredog
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countryhorseman wrote: Dang, you really got him upset this time, or his computer has the hicc'ups!
Ray, hello Ray! When are you going to realize these guys are jerking your chain, and many of them have nothing more than a Walmart Special Kraco CB in there trucks!
If you had any sense, and actually read the post, it is obvious that many of them have no idea what the are really talking about when the pull your chain!
The day will come! Just quit being so dang serious about it! You are just falling into the typical CB radio Circle Jerk that occurs at every major truck stop in the country right around dusk and on long weekends!
Back Off a bit and relax!
I too am a Licensed Amateur, and take the hobby seriously! But I am also a professional truck driver, and thus is what makes me money to be able to afford my equipment, and the ability to provide a community service. You approach on this forum has not ever worked, not will it ever work the way you go about it!
Sometimes I have to wonder if you are just a troll! A figment of one of these others guys imagination used to just jerk chains!
Oh well, have a nice day!
do they still make kraco? my friend has a kraco 8 track in his truck
I have a galaxy 66v on my truck and I have a license, I hardly ever talk on any channel let alone 10 meter, there's just not many people worth talking to anymore. I dont care to hear how tough they are or how fast their truck will go or how they duped the dot man yesterday.
Anyway, you are correct about Ray, it's fun to hear what he has to say. especially things like robbing houses and talking without a license are the same thing..
what about the truckstops that illegally advertise on the cb? some use a recording that plays over and over which is also illegal, that doesnt seem to bother Ray, it's just something about the 10 meter band that sets him off. |
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jedfxg
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| i know it is not legal, but will i tbother anybody if i run my export radio and kicker as long as i leave it on 19 or any of the other cb channels??? |
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countryhorseman
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Hmm, do not think Kraco markets CB's any longer, but I did see some Kraco radios on sale somewhere recently.
I have to agree with nothing worth listening on the CB much anymore! Ever no and again I find someone worth talking too, and go to a different channel to have the conversation.
Actually, the truckstops, chrome shops, truck washes, etc. (unfortunately) can advertise without getting in much trouble. Another change in the law during the Bill Clinton administration (although, the only blame we can put on him is signing the bill). They can advertise as long as prices are not discussed on the air, and it does not lock down the frequency. Although we know there are several that violate both of those.
10 meter sets him off more, because of all the outlaw conversions and high power capabilities of them. I have someone near me with a real trashy radio, that does bleed over on my 10 meter when monitoring 2 certain frequencies. I have tried to figure out were this person is, but no luck. The nearest known base radio to me is well over a mile. Although I-10 is only 5 miles to the south, but this guy is there everyday. Sounds like he trying to talk on channel 19, but in FM mode! I cannot hear him on my 148 on AM, but a slight bleed on LSB, Does not make any real sense! Anway, that is what irritates me about the converted radios and irresponsible use.
Oh well, as the day goes on!
Fredog wrote:
do they still make kraco? my friend has a kraco 8 track in his truck
I have a galaxy 66v on my truck and I have a license, I hardly ever talk on any channel let alone 10 meter, there's just not many people worth talking to anymore. I dont care to hear how tough they are or how fast their truck will go or how they duped the dot man yesterday.
Anyway, you are correct about Ray, it's fun to hear what he has to say. especially things like robbing houses and talking without a license are the same thing..
what about the truckstops that illegally advertise on the cb? some use a recording that plays over and over which is also illegal, that doesnt seem to bother Ray, it's just something about the 10 meter band that sets him off. |
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countryhorseman
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jedfxg wrote: i know it is not legal, but will i tbother anybody if i run my export radio and kicker as long as i leave it on 19 or any of the other cb channels???
Here is the deal! If you run it responsibly, it is properly modified (i.e. does not splatter over 30 channels), not heard in another country and it is not used as an equalizer to just tick people off, more than likely, although illegal, no one will notice or be bothered by it!
If one was to be running near you, talking on say 31, and you are on 19 and they could still hear your splatter, you will more than likely draw attention, not only from fellow truckers, but frequency monitors in various (not all) areas!
I have been doing some research, and have so far found 14 states that ratified the FCC ruling that allow states to enforce the regs! Some of these states are doing it, and using the FCC fine schedule. Why do you not here about these fines and confiscations? As everyone loves to point out to RR, they are state and local, Not Federal, thus do not have to be posted as FCC actions. Unless a radio operator choses to fight the fines and confiscations and go public with them, they are handled like a driving violation, in court, pay the fine (or ask for foregivess) and down the road they go!
There is a committee formed in Texas now, to allow a certain state entity to start enforcing this ruling, but it will have to wait until the 2009 legislative session to be approved. Although, depending on why you were stopped and by whom, some tickets have been issued already, under the Federal, not state regs. About 1/2 of the Texas State Troopers I have encountered are licensed Amateurs and know the regs well. Many of them are licensed now, because of catastrophies like Katrina, and the public network fails.
Sorry, this post became long winded, will quit for now!
jedfxg wrote: i know it is not legal, but will i tbother anybody if i run my export radio and kicker as long as i leave it on 19 or any of the other cb channels??? |
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matcat
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some_dude_in_michigan wrote:
It is time to start reeling in these ILLEGAL radio operators and make them pay, and also to make sure they are wearing their panties.
I just got done laughing for about 20 minutes after reading that. |
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Rat
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The "radio police" on this board can cry me a river. I use a high power radio for comunication with other drivers in my company that I work in. It saves me from paying roaming fees.
Even with a properly tuned CB it is hard to get any range and still beable to clearly hear the person you are talking to.
The majority of our comunications has to do with chages in loading spots or loading times etc. Sure once and awhile there is the "were you stopping for lunch" but hey.
Just because there are a few out there that play the "shut up stupid" or "I ain't got no Panties on" games does not mean that all of us are out there to litter the airwaves with crap. I don't have a roger beep, my eco is turned off and I don't have little noise toys on my radio or key up the mic over the radio speaker to play music over the air.
I listen for DOT reports, road reports and the like. It is real nice to hear that an accident is causing a back up, 20 or more miles before you get to it so that you can change your route.
But then it would be hard to hear this type of stuff without a big radio.
I run a Connex 4300 HP 10 meter on the 11 meter band. I have the system tuned for the best possible TX and RX. |
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Ronin
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| make that 3 I'm a Amateur Radio Operator as well. So yes, I can legally own those dual band CB's that the truck stops dole out without even so much as asking for a license. |
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kc0iv
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Ronin wrote: make that 3 I'm a Amateur Radio Operator as well. So yes, I can legally own those dual band CB's that the truck stops dole out without even so much as asking for a license.
Maybe you should look a little deeper in the regulation about dual band CB's.
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