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ogre999
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ironeagle2006 wrote: This happened to me in 1997 my dad and I were fighting to get home when my grandmother was dying. The night before she died we got home and we were do to get down there the next morning I went to bed and got up when I felt the presence in the room and when I looked it was my grandfather and grandmother together. My grandfather had died in 1980 right then I knew and got my dad up and said dad Shes gone and we do not need to go down. 30 seconds later the phone rang and my mom was like she just died.
Ahhh yes ... thank you for sharing with us my friend ...
This is a classic experiance and one of my favorite ... It is the affirmation of love ...of bonding ...of something beyond this world. When a Loved one appears to let us know they are safe and not alone ...to assure us in our moment of loss and grief ...
I rarely attend funerals ...it is not out of fear ...or disrespect ...or unconcern ...but the facts is ... I do not need to be close to mourn a personal loss ...A funeral is really a ceremony for the living ...to achieve closure ...to Mourn our losses and begin the Journey on. I would also prefer to preserve the memory of one so dear by keeping the last vision of them ...alive ...laughing ...strong and well ...it somehow helps me to do so.
I am Glad for you my friend ...glad that that Kind of Love and consideration existed in your life ...and I hope in some way it brought you comfort ... My Own mother died when I was 6yrs old ( I am sure this explains a few things :wink: ) I did not "see" her in that same sence but she did come to me in a couple of dreams ...
One could say it was a vision ...one could say it was a delusion created by the grieveng sub concious mind ...in the end I would say to either ..."if it helps us heal ....does it really Matter ?" ...after all ... I believe it has been said that "God" works in mysterious ways and there is nothing more mysterious than the inner workings of the human mind ...
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jayburd
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Orge999,
The ghost at the house appeared about 6 years ago after a trip to Paris,Texas to visit family graves.
From time to time you would see him in the hall as he walked from room to another.He was more of a shadow figure than ghostly figure or apparition.
Never caused any problems and all the dogs and cat couls him also.
Our youngest daughter called him "Boogy Pop".She said sometimes he'd pull her toes at night.
As ar as the reenactments go,I got took pics at Pleasant Hill,La. and got a couple of good ecto shots near a mass grave.If you believe in orbs,then I got a ton of those.Didn't see any of them until one of the other guys asked their permission to take pics and they came outta the wood work.
Our camers and flashlights worked on one side of the bridge but not on the other.
I also have one from the Confederate Reunion Grounds State Park in Mexia,Texas that has 2 Reb soldiers standing next to one of the cannon. |
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mommee
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Here are my stories...
My mother's sister,Terry, died in 1972, May, I think. I was 3yrs old at the time and my brother would have been a year old. These stories have been told to me countless times by my mother and other aunts. These all happened while we were still living in the Philippines. One time my brother and I were waving out the window in the direction of the bus stop. My aunts asked who we were waving at. We said that we were waving at my aunt Terry, who was waiting for the bus. We described what she was wearing to them. And my aunts were then very eager to return us to my mother. :lol:
At another time, I was in my grandmother's kitchen and somebody, I forget who, asked if I wanted to eat something. I said, "No, Auntie Terry and I already ate". The last story was that my grandmother said I was talking to somebody one day. I told this person that I didn't want to go with them and I wasn't going. She asked who I was talking to and I told it was my aunt. My grandmother told me to tell her that I was not going to go with her. I don't remember these things, but I figure they were true. I don't think a 3yr old would lie about those things. I still remember the wake. It took place in the living room at my grandmother's house. Even today, my brother and I have a hard time going into my aunt's bedroom when we visit my grandmother's old house.
My family went back to the Philippines last year for my grandmother's funeral. She died in my uncle's house, in the downstairs bedroom. This happened night before we were going back home. We were staying in the bedroom at the front of the house. The AC unit was loud and the bedroom door is made of heavy wood. It's hard to hear any outside noise. It was about 10:30pm and everyone was in bed. My 2 cousins were out. My mother and my children were in the bedroom. The kids were asleep and I had just turned off the light. I heard a loud banging. I didn't think much of it. Then it happened again. My mother asked if I heard something. I told her that I did. It happened a third time. I went outside to see what was going on. The house was quiet. The noise was coming from one of the 2 French doors leading to the outside. It sounded as if someone was shaking the doorknobs violently, as if someone was locked out of the house. I was expecting to hear somebody yelling to open the door. I got half way to the door and it stopped. The whole house was quiet and there was no street noise, just dead silence. I looked outside through the glass section of the first set of French doors. I thought it could have been the dog trying to get in, but he wasn't there. I didn't even hear his nails on the driveway. Needless to say I went back to the bedroom and told my mother what happened. I did not leave the bedroom until it was time to get up.
I own a dog, so I know what a dog scratching at the door would sound like. It clearly sounded as if someone wanted to get in. I thought maybe a robber. But he wouldn't make a sound and the dog would catch him. I told my uncle the story. He told me that the door was not locked because his son wasn't home yet and he locks it when he comes home. I freaked out a little when my uncle told me that the door wasn't locked in the first place. My uncle told me that one of his son's friends saw my grandmother one day. Told my cousin she was behind him and his friend ran off. I was told sometimes t he maids find the light is on in the bedroom where she died. And supposedly, no one turned it on. |
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ogre999
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jayburd wrote: Never caused any problems and all the dogs and cat couls him also.
Our youngest daughter called him "Boogy Pop".She said sometimes he'd pull her toes at night....
"Didn't see any of them until one of the other guys asked their permission to take pics and they came outta the wood work."...
I also have one from the Confederate Reunion Grounds State Park in Mexia,Texas that has 2 Reb soldiers standing next to one of the cannon.
LOL Fantastic ! ...Jay ...Again thank you ...
You Know its funny ... There is a trend these days ... for Such Shows as " Paranormal State " To Jump immediately to the negative ... everything is a " Demon " or Malevolent and dangerous ...I am not fond of this at all ...It also seems to coencide with a very " Catholic "theme to their findings and their approach. This worries a good many of in the metaphysical communities ...even myself I suppose. " spiritualisim is a movement that has arose a good many times over the course of mans history ...In this country culminating in the early 20th century with the battles of "Harry Houdini " and the spirit Mediums.
I worry i suppose mostly because I try to approach all of these subjects with an open mind ... not always possible ... especialy if it is approached with a specific "mind set " or religious policy. Granted scrapes with the otherworld like any carnival ride are certainly capable of scaring the livid bejezus out of you ...however as both of your experiances show ... this is not always the case , Sometmes it is the mindset of the individual "viewer" of such an event.
I have often theorized that spirits tend to remain much as they were in life ... if they were angry ...cruel ... or petty they remain so. There are of course those ...Such as "Boogy Pop " ... a seemingly obvious referal of a child to the term "pop" as in father or grandfather figure ...and from a child no less ! you would assume if anyone would recoil in fear from such a thing it would be a small one. However more often than not they seem more perceptive to many things when we truely listen to them. I am of course an unpopularly discipline driven father ( old school if you will ) BUT this doesnt mean that I do not listen to them.... more closely than they would wish at times :D
I would theorize from just what you say here that if NOT a family member of yours ...Maybe just the spirit of a father or grand father in life ...who mayhaps is not visited by his own family ... It could be that some division or argument in his own kin is the reason he cannot pass on. So it seems his soulution is to have "adopted" yours.
The Other aspect I find "charming" as a Man raised in a typically "southern" culture at least in so far as "manners" are concerned is that when your companion "respectfully requested " a photo ...he recieved one ... that one will make me chuckle all day ... so thank you
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ogre999
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mommee wrote: Here are my stories...
My mother's sister,Terry, died in 1972, May, I think. I was 3yrs old at the time and my brother would have been a year old. These stories have been told to me countless times by my mother and other aunts. These all happened while we were still living in the Philippines. One time my brother and I were waving out the window in the direction of the bus stop. My aunts asked who we were waving at. We said that we were waving at my aunt Terry, who was waiting for the bus. We described what she was wearing to them. And my aunts were then very eager to return us to my mother. :lol:
At another time, I was in my grandmother's kitchen and somebody, I forget who, asked if I wanted to eat something. I said, "No, Auntie Terry and I already ate". The last story was that my grandmother said I was talking to somebody one day. I told this person that I didn't want to go with them and I wasn't going. She asked who I was talking to and I told it was my aunt. My grandmother told me to tell her that I was not going to go with her. I don't remember these things, but I figure they were true. I don't think a 3yr old would lie about those things. I still remember the wake. It took place in the living room at my grandmother's house. Even today, my brother and I have a hard time going into my aunt's bedroom when we visit my grandmother's old house.
My family went back to the Philippines last year for my grandmother's funeral. She died in my uncle's house, in the downstairs bedroom. This happened night before we were going back home. We were staying in the bedroom at the front of the house. The AC unit was loud and the bedroom door is made of heavy wood. It's hard to hear any outside noise. It was about 10:30pm and everyone was in bed. My 2 cousins were out. My mother and my children were in the bedroom. The kids were asleep and I had just turned off the light. I heard a loud banging. I didn't think much of it. Then it happened again. My mother asked if I heard something. I told her that I did. It happened a third time. I went outside to see what was going on. The house was quiet. The noise was coming from one of the 2 French doors leading to the outside. It sounded as if someone was shaking the doorknobs violently, as if someone was locked out of the house. I was expecting to hear somebody yelling to open the door. I got half way to the door and it stopped. The whole house was quiet and there was no street noise, just dead silence. I looked outside through the glass section of the first set of French doors. I thought it could have been the dog trying to get in, but he wasn't there. I didn't even hear his nails on the driveway. Needless to say I went back to the bedroom and told my mother what happened. I did not leave the bedroom until it was time to get up.
I own a dog, so I know what a dog scratching at the door would sound like. It clearly sounded as if someone wanted to get in. I thought maybe a robber. But he wouldn't make a sound and the dog would catch him. I told my uncle the story. He told me that the door was not locked because his son wasn't home yet and he locks it when he comes home. I freaked out a little when my uncle told me that the door wasn't locked in the first place. My uncle told me that one of his son's friends saw my grandmother one day. Told my cousin she was behind him and his friend ran off. I was told sometimes t he maids find the light is on in the bedroom where she died. And supposedly, no one turned it on.
Dear Mommee
Ahhaaa ...the mysteries of the Far East ... You know I love diversity in a good many things in my life . I actually enjoy the traditional shift in thinking of many Cultures once we cross the pond so to speak. A new world to explore or a diffrent way to look at the world we have ... I dont often make the judgement of "better" or "worse" ...I usually just accept the diffrence. Funny thing is ...once you explore deep enough you often find the end results are very simillar indeed. Less to be "divided over " than we initally seem to find.
The Thing I love about the Orient that you dont often find in Anglo/ American cultures is an Ancient acceptance of the supernatural ...as just another aspect of our "natural" world. The Ghosts of Ancestors being more often than not "revered" and accepted rather than feared and shunned ... of course we both tend to live in fear of the dreaded "Mother in Law " :lol: whether in flesh or spirit ....
Ohh and being rather "portly" of course there is always the food ! :D
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Twilight Flyer
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| Simply put, there are many things 'out there' that we do not know or understand. Perhaps we never will. But even if we don't, it doesn't mean they don't exist. |
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ogre999
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| Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:02 am Post subject: SO True Twilight ... |
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I try to view the world from a standpoint that remembers that at one time ... the Highest minds in existance ...actually taught that "the world was flat " and that " the Earth was the center of the Universe " and that "Mountain Gorrillas were a native myth." like Bigfoot ... Of course we now know this is not so ... Mostly what I will argue is not the ACTUAL EXISTANCE of "Ghosts" or "little Green Men " or " tickle down economics " :lol: ...I simply argue the possibilities ...
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Trukrswyfe
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:?
just so you know.
I didn't read your posts till after I answered the question.
my opinion is still my opinion |
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ogre999
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Uhhh okay ... Thank you for that ...I think ...it takes all kinds I suppose but dont agree with you here ...sorry ....
Heres a riddle for you ...if the tree of life and the tree of knowledge both existed in Eden ... which friuit was forbidden and why ? |
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Trukrswyfe
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ogre999 wrote: Uhhh okay ... Thank you for that Your welcome
...I think ...it takes all kinds I suppose but dont agree with you here ...sorry .... No need to be sorry, I could care less if we agree. I would be more worried if you said you were turned on by it Shawn. :P
Heres a riddle for you ...if I have no doubt they were.the tree of life and the tree of knowledge both existed in Eden ... which friuit what is that? j/k was forbidden and why ?
Don't do riddles.... sorry
But if I guessed I would say both and for disobidience. |
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4roses
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Trukrswyfe Quote: Am I afraid of spirits no, even if the did all that movie makers have them doing, which they don't. Most often it is noises or things move. Are they invisible sure, but if you think about demons in this fashion.
On 1 fact your correct ~ movies do distort some things in life. And sure there's always noises in homes and places because of gravity ~ things do eventually fall and shift. But thats as far as it goes. Life is about difference, and beliefs and that's what makes the world go around.
I KNOW WHAT I'VE SEEN and I KNOW WHAT I've lived all my life ... And I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE of demons and Angels, ghost, Spirit Guide, and etc ... I can FEEL a demon and I only feel the sweet peace when it's an Angel. ... I went as far as to speak to my Pentcostal preacher about what happens in my life and he wouldn't nor could he prove to me where what I experience quite often is a 'demon'. .... I respect your beliefs and in turn I ask you respect mine! This thread isn't about preaching the Bible ..... it's about happenings and feelings in life. That why I said in my first post that I don't want to be burned at the stake, nor will I point my finger at someone for being judgemental . :wink: Are you throwing the first stone? I know for a fact that my good friends Slimland and Hobo have threads started on opinions about what the Bible said ... hummm.
:) I know which story I'll share now ... but it will take quite some time to write and I have things to do around the house first, so I shall return later today to share. |
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RebelDarlin
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ogre999 wrote: Uhhh okay ... Thank you for that ...I think ...it takes all kinds I suppose but dont agree with you here ...sorry ....
Heres a riddle for you ...if the tree of life and the tree of knowledge both existed in Eden ... which friuit was forbidden and why ?
Ok I'll bite....
The Tree that was forbidden was the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Why? To have "knowledge" of something means that you have to have experienced it. God did not want them to experience "evil", He wanted them to retain their innocence. Once they ate from the forbidden tree, they knew shame and guilt, which they had no prior "knowledge" of. It was a test of obedience, which they failed.
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RebelDarlin
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for4roses wrote: Trukrswyfe Quote: Am I afraid of spirits no, even if the did all that movie makers have them doing, which they don't. Most often it is noises or things move. Are they invisible sure, but if you think about demons in this fashion.
On 1 fact your correct ~ movies do distort some things in life. And sure there's always noises in homes and places because of gravity ~ things do eventually fall and shift. But thats as far as it goes. Life is about difference, and beliefs and that's what makes the world go around.
I KNOW WHAT I'VE SEEN and I KNOW WHAT I've lived all my life ... And I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE of demons and Angels, ghost, Spirit Guide, and etc ... I can FEEL a demon and I only feel the sweet peace when it's an Angel. ... I went as far as to speak to my Pentcostal preacher about what happens in my life and he wouldn't nor could he prove to me where what I experience quite often is a 'demon'. .... I respect your beliefs and in turn I ask you respect mine! This thread isn't about preaching the Bible ..... it's about happenings and feelings in life. That why I said in my first post that I don't want to be burned at the stake, nor will I point my finger at someone for being judgemental . :wink: Are you throwing the first stone? I know for a fact that my good friends Slimland and Hobo have threads started on opinions about what the Bible said ... hummm.
:) I know which story I'll share now ... but it will take quite some time to write and I have things to do around the house first, so I shall return later today to share.
You're quite right Roses. As in all things, there is "balance". There are demons and there are angels. There is good and evil in this, and in the Spirit world, and not everyone is able to discern the difference.
When I was a young child I would often tell my Mother about things that my "Angel" told me. Some of the things were Biblical, some were songs, and some were warnings. I was 3 or 4 and there was really no way for me to "know" the things I told her about. So my Mother took me to talk with our Minister about this because it frightened her. Pastor Wilson asked me all kinds of questions, to "test" this "spirit". He eventually believed it was an Angel too, and told my Mother to stop telling me I was making things up. This "Angel" of mine has saved my life more that a few times.
We are, according to the Bible, body, soul, and spirit and I believe we are capable of communication on all those levels.
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ogre999
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Very True Reb ...
In many beliefs it is interprited as Mind , Body , and soul but this leads to my next observation which is of course when you boil things down in most religions there is more to agree on than to NOT agree on ...it seems our material lives here on this earth ...for the limited time we are here would be much more plesant if we tended out own souls and left things like judgement to the God or Gods of your choosing ... which of course I do ...
And Yes ...that is a Pretty standard interpretation of the trees of Eden and what I was looking for indeed ...we now possess within us an innante ability to discern good and evil ...I unfortunately cannot agree that anything diffrent or out of the ordinary is "evil" ...unless of course one believes that "thinking , reason . and intelect , is more of the devil than God ...
and we are all off track here ... can we get any really good spooky trucker stories here ???? :lol: |
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ogre999
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:58 pm Post subject: Hey Folks ... Sorry I have been silent so long |
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I have just been super busy ...
I would like to let those of you who enjoy this may like to check out a Myspace page/ group I am now temorarily running for a friend
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