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ChikinTrucka
Joined: 06 Jan 2008
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Location: Maine, Ayah
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| Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:26 pm Post subject: Running overweight? |
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I recently went over TWO scales in VA, no problem.
But when I got to TN they pulled me in on the static scale. I was 480 pounds over gross and 2880 over on the tandems. (What's up with VA?)
Anyhow, they calculated the overweight fine to be about $125. Fine was written to the company.
In addition to that, they have a standard citation that goes against any driver who pulls ANY over overweight load. That fine is set at $205 for any amount.
I am assuming the company is going to pay both of these.
Anyone else ever get a pair of tickets like this?
Do other states do this? Seems kinda fishy to me.
If this is the new standard, I'm not going to haul anymore overweight loads, I can't afford to loose my license for someone else's benefit! |
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Fozzy
Joined: 02 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:36 pm Post subject: Re: Running overweight? |
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ChikinTrucka wrote:
If this is the new standard, I'm not going to haul anymore overweight loads, I can't afford to loose my license for someone else's benefit!
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rank
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| what was your weight in the other states. you were probably over and they let it slide. |
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ChikinTrucka
Joined: 06 Jan 2008
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Location: Maine, Ayah
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| Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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rank wrote: what was your weight in the other states. you were probably over and they let it slide.
At least 150 pounds more fuel at the 2nd VA scale, and no less than 350 pounds more fuel at the first VA scale. I didn't hit any others.
If I had fueled up before TN scale, I would have been another 850 pounds over!
The scale master in TN said that lots of truckers were commenting on how they weren't getting stopped in VA. And he was going to call them to wake them up, laughing. I said, Don't to that, I don't need another ticket, laughingly. Even though I got a ticket, all the cops in the scale house were very friendly and we told a few jokes. Why not? Life is too short too take to seriously and not have a laugh.
More to the point; I was really wondering about the citation that goes against my license. He told me if the company doesn't pay it, and I don't either, my license will be suspended. That is why I posted this thread. Normally I don't worry much if I'm a little overweight, the company will pay it. But in this case, it could come back to bite me in the arse.
Rock on,
Riff Raff. |
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Useless
Joined: 08 Oct 2005
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Location: Canyon Lake, Tx.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Did you bother to scale out before you hit the road with the load?? |
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glasman2
Joined: 02 Dec 2006
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Location: Tri-Cities Washington
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:20 am Post subject: |
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Useless wrote: Did you bother to scale out before you hit the road with the load??
Ditto... when I know I'm heavy, I always scale. Our Co will not pay for over weight tickets, but will pay us back for scaling. |
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Blind Driver
Joined: 12 Apr 2006
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Location: New Albany, IN
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:41 am Post subject: |
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| I'm always ovewrweight on my tri-axle at legal gross weight. We were hauling salt to Chicago for 2 weeks and had to dodge the scales when they were open :lol:. At 75,000 in a tri-axle dump, I was probably about 16k over on my drives :wink: |
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Mackman
Joined: 14 Sep 2005
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Location: Concordville PA
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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The ticket that was written to the company is the companys problem not yours.
The ticket that was written in YOUR name that is your problem. |
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Fredog
Joined: 23 Apr 2005
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Location: North Georgia
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: Running overweight? |
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ChikinTrucka wrote: I recently went over TWO scales in VA, no problem.
But when I got to TN they pulled me in on the static scale. I was 480 pounds over gross and 2880 over on the tandems. (What's up with VA?)
Anyhow, they calculated the overweight fine to be about $125. Fine was written to the company.
In addition to that, they have a standard citation that goes against any driver who pulls ANY over overweight load. That fine is set at $205 for any amount.
I am assuming the company is going to pay both of these.
Anyone else ever get a pair of tickets like this?
Do other states do this? Seems kinda fishy to me.
If this is the new standard, I'm not going to haul anymore overweight loads, I can't afford to loose my license for someone else's benefit!
Did the company tell you to go ahead and run overweight? in our company, if I find I am overweight, I have 3 choices. take some off. go ahead without asking and pay the fine if caught, or call the boss and he pays the fine if he tells me to go with it. If I cant scale, and get a ticket, then he will pay it. |
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tahawus
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Location: Long Island, NY
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:13 am Post subject: |
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| If you got caught at a VA scale they give you 2 hours to make it right. If you cant make it right in that time then they will ticket you. |
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ChikinTrucka
Joined: 06 Jan 2008
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Location: Maine, Ayah
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| Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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Well, it's like this. Someone else typically loads the trailer during the week. And then I get it on Sunday.
My feeling is that the load should be weighed and adjusted by the guy who loads it (who is paid by the hour!) and ready to go Sunday. When I get it, the place is closed, and the closest scales is 75 miles away, past a scale house. And they have always told me to go ahead and take it when I was over in the past. There's nothing I can do at this point with the load except to go 75 miles back to the terminal, and get in my car and drive 50 miles back home. A 150 mile day and wasted 4 or 5 hours is not my idea of a productive day. So, the answer is NO, I didn't scale it. I did check the air gauges at the tandems and in the cab, they both said about 60 psi, which is usually good, and I wouldn't have weighed it anyhow. Apparently, the trailer gauge isn't right.
Do you think I'm asking too much? I don't want to be a prima-donna, but, what the F-? I don't see any reason why the guy who loaded the trailer shouldn't make it right and if necessary, go back to the shipper and take some off. I don't have that option on Sunday night.
How do other companies handle this and how much overweight do you consider acceptable? |
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Rokk
Joined: 10 May 2004
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Location: Flatbedder on the road to somewhere
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| Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| every company i have ever worked for (all the big ones included) has stressed, scale the load. they reimburse. its not another drivers responsibility to scale the load, its yours. if its over legal weight, you dotn run it or take the risks. if anther driver does scale the load. its only courteous and professional to leave a copy of the scale ticket with the bills for the load. if the company did not authorize you to run an over weight load then by al rights and purposes, its your baby. |
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Useless
Joined: 08 Oct 2005
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Location: Canyon Lake, Tx.
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I ALWAYS scaled my load, unless it was VERY light.
Even if the load is legal, that does NOT mean that it's properly balanced.
I see the time and effort in weighing out as being an issue of safe operating practices as well as staying legal. |
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Trukrswyfe
Joined: 13 Jul 2007
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Useless wrote: I ALWAYS scaled my load, unless it was VERY light.
Even if the load is legal, that does NOT mean that it's properly balanced.
I see the time and effort in weighing out as being an issue of safe operating practices as well as staying legal.
hey Useless,
You are so right. My husband just started hauling doubles and tankers. Very new to that type of work, and wouldn't you know it,
He got his first overweight ticket. He has never gotten a ticket before,
well in a CMV. But they did cut him some slack he was like 900lbs over weight and the ticket was only 81.00.
It was a bargain for the lesson learned the hard way.
He scales out on a Certified scale now.
He was weighed at the shipper but... if must be way off.
His employer paid the ticket but its still on his record.
Gotta be Proactive. |
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Sealord
Joined: 20 Jun 2005
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Location: Florida
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| Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:32 am Post subject: Overweight |
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| "I don't see any reason why the guy who loaded the trailer shouldn't make it right and if necessary, go back to the shipper and take some off." Apparently your co-worker gives a rat's butt about you and what you do on Sunday. Maybe you should introduce him to the curative mind altering protocols of the results of screwing over a co-worker. BOL |
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