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bonnivillebob
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| Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:59 pm Post subject: day cab rules |
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| I'm wondering if anyone knows what companies that run day cabs are obligated to do when a driver runs out of hours on the road. My company says we are to park and wait for another driver to come by and pick you up and bring you back to terminal, its never happened to me yet, but its a common thing where I work and I'm not sure if its legal |
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Rev.Vassago
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Location: Green Bay, WI
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| Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:57 pm Post subject: Re: day cab rules |
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bonnivillebob wrote: I'm wondering if anyone knows what companies that run day cabs are obligated to do when a driver runs out of hours on the road. My company says we are to park and wait for another driver to come by and pick you up and bring you back to terminal, its never happened to me yet, but its a common thing where I work and I'm not sure if its legal
The driver must go off duty for 10 hours before he can legally drive again. This cannot be done inside the daycab. |
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Fozzy
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| Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:01 pm Post subject: Re: day cab rules |
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bonnivillebob wrote: I'm wondering if anyone knows what companies that run day cabs are obligated to do when a driver runs out of hours on the road. My company says we are to park and wait for another driver to come by and pick you up and bring you back to terminal, its never happened to me yet, but its a common thing where I work and I'm not sure if its legal
Nothing illegal about it, you can be on duty forever without limits! You cannot DRIVE until you have the proper rest break. The HOS are all bout access to the steering wheel and nothing else. |
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bonnivillebob
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| Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Ok, so if I'm out of hours 150 miles from the terminal and I have to sit and wait 3hrs for another driver to get me and another 3hrs drive back as a passenger' I would just log it line 4 and it would count to my 70 for the week , though I would log 20 hrs for my trip for that day. Aslong as I take a 10 hr break when I get back the yard |
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Rev.Vassago
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bonnivillebob wrote: Ok I figured you would have to take a ten hour break, but I was wondering if I were out of hours 3hrs away from the terminal what would my company's legal obligation be, such as putting me up in a hotel for my break( thats what I would think is the legal and moral thing to do).
They have no obligation to give you a place to take your 10 hours off duty. |
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Fozzy
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| Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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bonnivillebob wrote: Ok I figured you would have to take a ten hour break, but I was wondering if I were out of hours 3hrs away from the terminal what would my company's legal obligation be, such as putting me up in a hotel for my break( thats what I would think is the legal and moral thing to do). They also tell us we are allowed to work one 16 hr day during our 70, but I know that 16 hr rule is for emergencey purposes such as bad weather etc., not because it took to long to get loaded.
Thanks for the repy Rev
Our drivers take the one 16 hour day quite often... |
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bonnivillebob
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Thanks for the replies, dont get me wrong that I'm crying about this, I knew about this when I took the job and I dont have a problem with it.
To me its the price I pay for running a day cab so I can be home every day. I just wasnt sure if there was something DOT would hang me for |
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silvan
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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Location: Sitting on my butt mostly, because those UAW whiners can't face economic realities
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bonnivillebob wrote: To me its the price I pay for running a day cab so I can be home every day. I just wasnt sure if there was something DOT would hang me for Not that you have any choice, but I'm home every day in a sleeper. I've only tossed my rain coat and other assorted crap off the bed three times in a year, but I was glad to have it.
I think if I were buying a truck for this freight I run, I'd get one with a super narrow uncomfortable sleeper, like I see some of the yankers tanking with.
If I were 150 miles from home though, and out of hours, well, I plead the 5th on what I would do. It's never happened that I recall. No, officer, not once.
(Actually, I used to hit my 14 exactly nine miles from home pretty regular. Between exits. What's a man to do? Park on the shoulder for 10 hours, of course. That's exactly what I did, each and every time. I swear.
Anyone want to buy a bridge?) |
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gmh
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silvan wrote: Anyone want to buy a bridge?)
Awesome, it'll go great with that prime real estate I bought in Florida! |
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wanderingson
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bonnivillebob wrote: I would just log it line 4 and it would count to my 70 for the week , though I would log 20 hrs for my trip for that day. Aslong as I take a 10 hr break when I get back the yard
Yes, technically you should log your waiting time for your ride on line 4, since you are still "on duty". This would be the same if you had a break down, for instance. If you log 20 hours for that trip, you are in violation! You must take 10 off after 14 hours of combined time on lines 3 and 4. Or after 11 hours of driving.
If this happens on a regular basis, I'd find another job if I were you.
I drive daycab too. There is the 16 hr. rule, which only applies if your run doesn't take you more than 150 miles from your home terminal. |
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bikerboy
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Location: Southern Ontario Canada
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wanderingson wrote: bonnivillebob wrote: I would just log it line 4 and it would count to my 70 for the week , though I would log 20 hrs for my trip for that day. Aslong as I take a 10 hr break when I get back the yard
Yes, technically you should log your waiting time for your ride on line 4, since you are still "on duty". This would be the same if you had a break down, for instance. If you log 20 hours for that trip, you are in violation! You must take 10 off after 14 hours of combined time on lines 3 and 4. Or after 11 hours of driving.
If this happens on a regular basis, I'd find another job if I were you.
I drive daycab too. There is the 16 hr. rule, which only applies if your run doesn't take you more than 150 miles from your home terminal.
You are wrong about taking a 10 hour break after 14 hours combined line 3 and 4.
You can stay on line 4 as long as you want, you just can't drive again until you take 10 hours off, and you must be under your total 60 or 70 hours to the week too.
So logging 20 hours for the trip is legal, as long as there is less than 11 hours driving logged and there was no driving logged after the 14th hour.
Then take 10 hours off when you get home and good to go again, as long as you stay under the 60 or 70 hour rule! |
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