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repete



Joined: 21 Dec 2006
Posts: 237

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:28 am    Post subject: logging no no?  

I now run the same route 5 nights a week and am home from about 0200-1500 hrs.
this is where the question comes in. I am logging this time on line 1 off duty. An other driver said thats wrong(I know I shouldn't listen but now worry about it) he said it should be logged on line 2 or I need a hotel reciept for DOT. I start logging and end at the same time and same location so it's evident that I must be home.
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Crash935



Joined: 06 Mar 2005
Posts: 364
Location: Grand Rapids MI

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:32 am    Post subject:  

Line 1 - Off Duty
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RebelDarlin



Joined: 06 Jul 2007
Posts: 1348
Location: Illinois

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:08 pm    Post subject:  

If you're at home why would you need a hotel receipt? There is nothing that says your off duty time has to be spent in a hotel.
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Fredog



Joined: 23 Apr 2005
Posts: 2169
Location: North Georgia

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:13 pm    Post subject: Re: logging no no?  

repete wrote: I now run the same route 5 nights a week and am home from about 0200-1500 hrs.
this is where the question comes in. I am logging this time on line 1 off duty. An other driver said thats wrong(I know I shouldn't listen but now worry about it) he said it should be logged on line 2 or I need a hotel reciept for DOT. I start logging and end at the same time and same location so it's evident that I must be home.

(h)(1) Off duty. Except for time spent resting in a sleeper berth, a continuous line shall be drawn between the appropriate time markers to record the period(s) of time when the driver is not on duty, is not required to be in readiness to work, or is not under any responsibility for performing work.
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Rev.Vassago



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 5402
Location: Green Bay, WI

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:27 pm    Post subject: Re: logging no no?  

repete wrote: I now run the same route 5 nights a week and am home from about 0200-1500 hrs.
this is where the question comes in. I am logging this time on line 1 off duty. An other driver said thats wrong(I know I shouldn't listen but now worry about it) he said it should be logged on line 2 or I need a hotel reciept for DOT. I start logging and end at the same time and same location so it's evident that I must be home.

I'm sure that same driver thinks you need white sheets, and DOT can give you a citation if your bed isn't made. :lol:
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Fredog



Joined: 23 Apr 2005
Posts: 2169
Location: North Georgia

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:30 pm    Post subject: Re: logging no no?  

Rev.Vassago wrote: repete wrote: I now run the same route 5 nights a week and am home from about 0200-1500 hrs.
this is where the question comes in. I am logging this time on line 1 off duty. An other driver said thats wrong(I know I shouldn't listen but now worry about it) he said it should be logged on line 2 or I need a hotel reciept for DOT. I start logging and end at the same time and same location so it's evident that I must be home.

I'm sure that same driver thinks you need white sheets, and DOT can give you a citation if your bed isn't made. :lol:

and dont forget, your pillow needs to be fluffed
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repete



Joined: 21 Dec 2006
Posts: 237

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:04 pm    Post subject:  

OH-MAN, I'm in trouble now :shock: I've got blue sheets! What about the blanket? :lol:
thanks for the info, I kina figuered off duty is off. I'm sure it would be different if I was still OTR
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Fredog



Joined: 23 Apr 2005
Posts: 2169
Location: North Georgia

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:32 pm    Post subject:  

repete wrote: OH-MAN, I'm in trouble now :shock: I've got blue sheets! What about the blanket? :lol:
thanks for the info, I kina figuered off duty is off. I'm sure it would be different if I was still OTR

a Barney blanket is acceptable
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Creek Jackson



Joined: 27 Nov 2007
Posts: 421
Location: Right-up-Ahead, Montana

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:44 pm    Post subject:  

While you logging "gurus" are "on duty" (not driving) I hope!,,,,, :D

I have a quick question.

What is the maximum number of hours allowed for driving during a 24 hour period?

I know it sounds like a basic premise of HOS, but I just recently realized it isn't.
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Fredog



Joined: 23 Apr 2005
Posts: 2169
Location: North Georgia

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:06 pm    Post subject:  

Creek Jackson wrote: While you logging "gurus" are "on duty" (not driving) I hope!,,,,, :D

I have a quick question.

What is the maximum number of hours allowed for driving during a 24 hour period?

I know it sounds like a basic premise of HOS, but I just recently realized it isn't.

you can be on duty for 14 hours out if which you can drive for 11 hours, then you must have 10 hours rest, so the maximum time you could drive during a 24 hour period would be 11 hours
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ironeagle2006



Joined: 29 Sep 2006
Posts: 865

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:11 pm    Post subject:  

13.75 the 10 hour break resets the clock for you and you have your next 11 to use. Under the old 10 and 8 there were plenty of days I did 15.75 as long as I had that 8 hours in between shifts DOT boys said I was fine. Trouble is you will fry your hours faster than Rosy Odonnell gets fired from the View.
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Uturn2001



Joined: 10 Jan 2005
Posts: 4623
Location: East Central IL between the corn and the beans

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:31 pm    Post subject:  

Quote: you can be on duty for 14 hours out if which you can drive for 11 hours, then you must have 10 hours rest, so the maximum time you could drive during a 24 hour period would be 11 hours

Ahh trucker math and a lack of understanding of the HOS. :P

It would be no more than 13.5 hours in most situations. (Figuring 2 vehicle inspections during that time).
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Double L



Joined: 26 Sep 2007
Posts: 1039
Location: Southern Illinois

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:33 pm    Post subject:  

Now what exactly is trucker math? :lol:
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Rev.Vassago



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 5402
Location: Green Bay, WI

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:20 pm    Post subject:  

Creek Jackson wrote: While you logging "gurus" are "on duty" (not driving) I hope!,,,,, :D

I have a quick question.

What is the maximum number of hours allowed for driving during a 24 hour period?

I know it sounds like a basic premise of HOS, but I just recently realized it isn't.

Midnight until 11 am driving = 11 hours
11 am until 9 pm sleeper berth = 10 hours
9 pm until midnight driving = 3 hours

Theoretically, 14 hours, but that isn't going to happen in the real world.
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bullhauler



Joined: 28 Dec 2005
Posts: 331
Location: saskatchewan canada

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:08 pm    Post subject:  

without having to load or unload, you will have to pre tip.
That is going to cost one half hour, depending on your tank size, you might have to fuel, there goes half hour more.
The only way to get out of that one, Is to fuel and pt at the same time.

the way it is you can not steel from the ten off, but you can from the three on duty.

twenty is more like it.

The rev forgot to pre trip twice so his 14 is in all reality going to be 13
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