| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
mdgardner963
Joined: 16 Jan 2008
Posts: 156
Location: California
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:59 am Post subject: |
|
|
thebaldeagle655 wrote: mdgardner963 wrote: You know what I wonder about this new idling law is who in gods green earth thinks this stuff up… And where are the driver’s rights here? Are there any Constitutional rights being violated in this law…
More over let’s go to there home and cut the temp to 42 degrees and see how they like it. Does any of this make sense? I under stand the need for clean air do not get me wrong here. I just think who is making the sacrifice? The companies could care less and the driver has no recourse or does he or her? The Big Dog Kicks :evil: :evil: :roll:
Remember, this is the same state that has a bill up to become law requiring GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED THERMOSTATS in all homes so that when there is a peak power consumption period, someone in the government can hit a switch and readjust everyone's heat and a/c units. Make sense? It's California, the land of fruits and nuts!
Now Now i would not label anyone in California a Fruit.. Or nuts.. I do have other thoughts tho comrad :!: |
|
| Back to top |
|
Double L
Joined: 26 Sep 2007
Posts: 1279
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:59 am Post subject: |
|
|
thebaldeagle655 wrote:
Remember, this is the same state that has a bill up to become law requiring GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED THERMOSTATS in all homes so that when there is a peak power consumption period, someone in the government can hit a switch and readjust everyone's heat and a/c units. Make sense? It's California, the land of fruits and nuts!
Your joking right??? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: |
|
| Back to top |
|
mdgardner963
Joined: 16 Jan 2008
Posts: 156
Location: California
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:20 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Of Course :twisted: :twisted: |
|
| Back to top |
|
geeshock
Joined: 26 Jan 2006
Posts: 350
Location: Hertford, NC
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:37 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I used to deliver and haul out of CA but until they start talking sense or something comes along to make life easier for us in that state I don't see myself going to CA again. I have a feeling they are about to do one of 2 things.
1.) see a major loss of frieght in and out of state
or
2.) they just made a reason to increase the boarder program and will depend mostly on items from in mexico.
of course with CA being so strict on truck inspections I don't see why mexico would want to go there eather. |
|
| Back to top |
|
kc0iv
Joined: 03 Feb 2005
Posts: 1113
Location: Kansas City, MO
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:39 pm Post subject: |
|
|
mdgardner963 wrote: Statewide Regulation Now Limits Diesel-Fueled
Commercial Motor Vehicle Idling
The Law
On or after February 1, 2005, the driver of any vehicle subject to this section:
(1) shall not idle the vehicle’s primary diesel engine for greater than 5
minutes at any location (please see “When can I idle?”)
(2) shall not idle a diesel-fueled auxiliary power system (APS) for more than 5
minutes to power a heater, air conditioner, or any ancillary equipment on the
vehicle if you have a sleeper berth and you’re within 100 feet of a restricted
area (homes and schools)
Who’s affected by the new regulation?
Operators of diesel-fueled commercial motor vehicles that weigh more than 10,000 pounds
operating in California, regardless of the state or country in which the vehicles are registered.
What are the penalties for non-compliance?
The driver of the vehicle is subject to a minimum civil penalty of $100 and to criminal penalties as
specified in the Health and Safety Code.
When can I idle?
Idling is allowed under these circumstances:
· A bus idling for up to 10 minutes prior to passenger boarding, or when passengers are onboard
· Idling of the main engine during sleeping or resting in a sleeper berth beyond 100 feet from any
restricted area (homes and schools)
· Idling when the vehicle must remain motionless due to traffic conditions
· Idling when the vehicle is queuing that at all times is beyond 100 feet from any restricted area
(homes and schools)
· Idling to verify safe operating condition
· Idling is mandatory for testing, servicing (cleaning of commercial vehicles/trucks/buses is not
considered servicing), repairing, or diagnostic purposes
· Idling when positioning or providing power for equipment that is performing work
· Idling when operating defrosters, heaters, air conditioners, or other equipment to prevent a safety
or health emergency
· Idling by authorized emergency vehicles
· Idling of military tactical vehicles during periods of training
· See regulation for details *
*REGULATION
For the text of the regulation, visit http://www.arb.ca.gov/toxics/idling/regtext.htm
I found this on the same page... now i am so confused. :evil:
Look at the dates. The one you quoted was the law in February 1, 2005. The one I quoted became effective on JANUARY 1, 2008.
kc0iv |
|
| Back to top |
|
Double L
Joined: 26 Sep 2007
Posts: 1279
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:39 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| I think Cali is gonna lose alot of freight with this no idling bullshit! |
|
| Back to top |
|
trans3
Joined: 25 Feb 2007
Posts: 27
Location: Camp Bucca, Iraq
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:45 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| what about those fruitcakes from CRASH and PATT? Aren't they saying anything about the loss of a "quality sleep or resting environment" for the drivers? I see a lot of bad things happening out there because of this. |
|
| Back to top |
|
mdgardner963
Joined: 16 Jan 2008
Posts: 156
Location: California
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:56 pm Post subject: |
|
|
[quote="kc0iv"] mdgardner963 wrote: Statewide Regulation Now Limits Diesel-Fueled
Commercial Motor Vehicle Idling
The Law
On or after February 1, 2005, the driver of any vehicle subject to this section:
(1) shall not idle the vehicle’s primary diesel engine for greater than 5
minutes at any location (please see “When can I idle?”)
(2) shall not idle a diesel-fueled auxiliary power system (APS) for more than 5
minutes to power a heater, air conditioner, or any ancillary equipment on the
vehicle if you have a sleeper berth and you’re within 100 feet of a restricted
area (homes and schools)
Who’s affected by the new regulation?
Operators of diesel-fueled commercial motor vehicles that weigh more than 10,000 pounds
operating in California, regardless of the state or country in which the vehicles are registered.
What are the penalties for non-compliance?
The driver of the vehicle is subject to a minimum civil penalty of $100 and to criminal penalties as
specified in the Health and Safety Code.
When can I idle?
Idling is allowed under these circumstances:
· A bus idling for up to 10 minutes prior to passenger boarding, or when passengers are onboard
· Idling of the main engine during sleeping or resting in a sleeper berth beyond 100 feet from any
restricted area (homes and schools)
· Idling when the vehicle must remain motionless due to traffic conditions
· Idling when the vehicle is queuing that at all times is beyond 100 feet from any restricted area
(homes and schools)
· Idling to verify safe operating condition
· Idling is mandatory for testing, servicing (cleaning of commercial vehicles/trucks/buses is not
considered servicing), repairing, or diagnostic purposes
· Idling when positioning or providing power for equipment that is performing work
· Idling when operating defrosters, heaters, air conditioners, or other equipment to prevent a safety
or health emergency
· Idling by authorized emergency vehicles
· Idling of military tactical vehicles during periods of training
· See regulation for details *
*REGULATION
For the text of the regulation, visit http://www.arb.ca.gov/toxics/idling/regtext.htm
I found this on the same page... now i am so confused. :evil:
[color=green]Look at the dates. The one you quoted was the law in February 1, 2005. The one I quoted became effective on JANUARY 1, 2008.
I went back and got that from the 2008 revisions and when i asked the communist there this what i got for them.. |
|
| Back to top |
|
gmh
Joined: 08 Dec 2007
Posts: 391
Location: Southern Maryland
|
| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:45 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Double L wrote: I think Cali is gonna lose alot of freight with this no idling bullshit!
They may lose some O/O drivers, but companies in Cali will just wind up dealing with shippers that force dispatch. Maybe some company will give one more penny per mile in the state. |
|
| Back to top |
|
Bandit102
Joined: 22 Nov 2006
Posts: 245
|
| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:09 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Well, everyone else can have California. Have you seen the rates out of there lately? Horrible. And there is certainly not an abundance of loads out there anyway. I'll be damned if I'm gonna haul out there for $1.50 and have to suffer in the summer or winter temps. Not this guy.
There are much better places to go with much higher speed limits and much better traffic. |
|
| Back to top |
|
MtFoxx
Joined: 19 Jan 2008
Posts: 76
Location: Walking Home
|
| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:37 am Post subject: |
|
|
Double L wrote: I think Cali is gonna lose alot of freight with this no idling bullshit!
Ur right and did U know that Cali hasn't fallen in to the ocean because it sucks. I just moved my family to Tennessee to escape the BS there.
I thought it would improve under a (R) Gov. Nope it's getting worse. Duncan Hunter is pushing for a limit on truck traffic now. He wants to specify the "roads of approved travel" for semi commerce. WTF Are they going to lump it in now?
Or, are they going to take us back to train loads only killing the trucker income? |
|
| Back to top |
|
mdgardner963
Joined: 16 Jan 2008
Posts: 156
Location: California
|
| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:33 pm Post subject: |
|
|
MtFoxx wrote: Double L wrote: I think Cali is gonna lose alot of freight with this no idling bullshit!
Ur right and did U know that Cali hasn't fallen in to the ocean because it sucks. I just moved my family to Tennessee to escape the BS there.
I thought it would improve under a (R) Gov. Nope it's getting worse. Duncan Hunter is pushing for a limit on truck traffic now. He wants to specify the "roads of approved travel" for semi commerce. WTF Are they going to lump it in now?
Or, are they going to take us back to train loads only killing the trucker income?
Do yu really think the 3rd largest econmy cares about you working here?? NO! But the politcal people That is how you change this dum law make the poltications scared. Big DOg Kicks |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
