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Fredog wrote: bentstrider wrote: It's been awhile since I last posted here, but here it goes.
I was involved in a rollover accident in Utah, back in October.
I drove with Swift(ha ha ha) and thought they were a good company up until they sacked me for the accident.
I never intended to stay in trucking forever, but I didn't want it to end that way either.
Needless to say, I've been going through a few, other big companies and I get the same response.
"Can't hire you until you get an accident-free, year of driving."
Same thing goes for Swift if I want to get back with them.
Problem is, they tell me to find some "Mom and Pop" companies that might take a chance by letting me redeem myself.
These companies tend to stay below even the most, primitive radar systems and seem to be hard to find.
I also have a total of 14 months under my belt, and a trucking school bill from another company that has to be paid off.
Please, somebody throw me a bone as far as "forgiving" companies go.

Mom and Pop companies tend to be stricter than the mega carriers, people who give you that advice have never driven for one. the ones that do hire just anyone are usually outlaw companies that you should stay away from.
with 14 months experience and a rollover already, you are going to have a real hard time finding a decent job. At the small company I work for, they couldnt hire you even if they wanted to. the insurance is strict, if you have a rollover or a right turn crash or a following too close ticket or wreck, they wont cover you.. period..

I must RESPECTFULLY disagree with Fredog here. I guess I DO work for one of these smaller companies (and SOME might even call them outlaw. I don't KNOW if I would say that, though.)

They gave me a chance when many others would NOT. I have been with them a few years, and they have even overlooked "another" little mishap of mine. I ALSO know that they have retained drivers who've had "at fault" accidents. (no personal injury.)

They hired ME right out of CDL mill ( I mean school. ) So, with 14 months under your belt, you would have had an even BETTER chance than me (without the accident.)

Yes, they are somewhat under the radar, but CDL schools KNOW about them. Ask some of the schools in your area.... even if you didn't ATTEND there. Check the local paper for ads and CALL them. You can ALSO get a list of EVERY company within your state off the internet. Just do a little googling.

If you have a CDL, you CAN find a company to hire you, and get that one year accident free on your record...... and INTO your mind!

I HAVE some comments about your Psychological outlook on all this, but I'll save it for a following post. I don't know WHY, (yes I do,) but your situation intrigues me, and I'm gonna GIVE you the advice you seek. You may not LIKE everything I've got to say..... but it is meant well.

I don't know if you are even still reading this thread, or ON this forum. But, I'm home all week, so YOU win the prize! :lol:

Hobo

bentstrider · Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Posts: 97 Location: Hesperia, CA

[quote="golfhobo]
I must RESPECTFULLY disagree with Fredog here. I guess I DO work for one of these smaller companies (and SOME might even call them outlaw. I don't KNOW if I would say that, though.)

They gave me a chance when many others would NOT. I have been with them a few years, and they have even overlooked "another" little mishap of mine. I ALSO know that they have retained drivers who've had "at fault" accidents. (no personal injury.)

They hired ME right out of CDL mill ( I mean school. ) So, with 14 months under your belt, you would have had an even BETTER chance than me (without the accident.)

Yes, they are somewhat under the radar, but CDL schools KNOW about them. Ask some of the schools in your area.... even if you didn't ATTEND there. Check the local paper for ads and CALL them. You can ALSO get a list of EVERY company within your state off the internet. Just do a little googling.

If you have a CDL, you CAN find a company to hire you, and get that one year accident free on your record...... and INTO your mind!

I HAVE some comments about your Psychological outlook on all this, but I'll save it for a following post. I don't know WHY, (yes I do,) but your situation intrigues me, and I'm gonna GIVE you the advice you seek. You may not LIKE everything I've got to say..... but it is meant well.

I don't know if you are even still reading this thread, or ON this forum. But, I'm home all week, so YOU win the prize! :lol:

Hobo[/quote]

Hey, I'm still looking and still working.
The results aren't promising, but I'm going to keep plugging away until I drop dead.
That's how determined I am to get back into it.
As far as going back to school goes, not quite sure on that one.
I took a few college courses, passed them and became stressed out from that.
I was told by a counselor back in high school to just finish up high school and don't even try college.
Seeing how angry I was with schoolwork back then, college will probably just turn me into someone no one will really like.
I'll essentially become one of those office workers that doesn't really socialize.
That's okay, no Heimlich for them when they choke.
Another thing to consider is the fact that I'm not a loner, but I don't socialize with people in the same work-field I'm in.
And that's why I've come to respect trucking as a career.
I'll talk to people and never get used to them, because I won't be seeing that same face everyday.
Unlike an office.

mbadriver · Joined: 19 Oct 2007 Posts: 357 Location: I94 Exit 69

Termination is standard for rollover accidents. Other than mechanical, a rollover is always caused by speed and not having the vehicle under control.

Keep digging, someone will hire you.

bentstrider · Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Posts: 97 Location: Hesperia, CA

mbadriver wrote: Termination is standard for rollover accidents. Other than mechanical, a rollover is always caused by speed and not having the vehicle under control.

Keep digging, someone will hire you.

I talked to a few companies, England and CRST(Ugh) were willing to give me a shot after a year went by.
Swift told me to keep trying every six months for the next two years, after the accident.
I'll post app's with some of the temp-to-hire agencies around here as well.
The whole entire motivation for this is that I want to pay of my $3600, school-bill, plus a few other bills, before finally saying "the journey's over".
It's kind of kind of hard to concentrate with so much debt under my belt, at the age I'm at right now.
I honestly do want to get back into school, but I personally see "federal student aid" as a bit, "socialist".
So, I'd much rather work and say, "I paid my own way."

bentstrider · Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Posts: 97 Location: Hesperia, CA

I'va also decided to get a doubles/triples endorsement tacked onto my license.
Perhaps I'll have better luck hauling rocks.
Only reason I'm still plugging away with trying to get back into trucking is the work environment.
I can handle the public, I just never got along well with coworkers.

dewercs2 · Joined: 13 Jan 2007 Posts: 163 Location: Hemet, CA

Mbadriver....
I had a rollover in 11-07 and my company wanted me to stay with them. They even asked me to become O/O via lease purchase program.

Bentstrider.... I've spoken to System Ttransport. I am just waiting to get cleared of my injuries before going with them.

good luck.

pb

stormothecentury · Joined: 31 Dec 2007 Posts: 134 Location: Rochester, NY

mbadriver wrote: Termination is standard for rollover accidents. Other than mechanical, a rollover is always caused by speed and not having the vehicle under control.

Not necessarily - a good friend of mine was literally blown off of I-90 outside of Bozeman a few weeks ago. 80 mph winds blew his truck (and about five others) right off the road.

bentstrider · Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Posts: 97 Location: Hesperia, CA

dewercs2 wrote: Mbadriver....
I had a rollover in 11-07 and my company wanted me to stay with them. They even asked me to become O/O via lease purchase program.

Bentstrider.... I've spoken to System Ttransport. I am just waiting to get cleared of my injuries before going with them.

good luck.

pb

Is this them?
http://www.trans-system.com/index.html

bentstrider · Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Posts: 97 Location: Hesperia, CA

I've studied some CDL manuals over the past, few weeks.
I'm going to go ahead and get my doubles/triples endorsement tacked on shortly.
I feel if I want to fund any other career options, driving some powder truck might be the ticket.
Nothing wrong with going to school, but I don't particularly care for
student/hipsters living off of gov't aid, and Starbucks checks.
Neither do I want to join them!!

BIG JEEP on 44's · Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:59 pm Post subject: Re: Rolloevers and Termination

stormothecentury wrote: mbadriver wrote: Termination is standard for rollover accidents. Other than mechanical, a rollover is always caused by speed and not having the vehicle under control.

Not necessarily - a good friend of mine was literally blown off of I-90 outside of Bozeman a few weeks ago. 80 mph winds blew his truck (and about five others) right off the road.

At Werner if you were blown over by wind ,and the weather was documetable they would not terminate you they would list the incident as non -preventable ...However because the truck is going to need a wrecker it is going to show on your DAC as DOT non-preventable where as most companies do not report non-dot non-preventable to DAC/USIS . And one could say that you were aware of the weather ,but in some places not driving b/c it's windy would mean avoiding those states for entire seasons .

bentstrider · Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Posts: 97 Location: Hesperia, CA

Well, got the doubles/triples added, so here I go again.
As I said, once I'm back into it, 2 full years, then I'll officially put it behind me.
After that, I'll start plugging away at a BSN.

Elmdor · Joined: 18 Jul 2007 Posts: 38

I dont think getting a doubles/triples endorsement is going to help very much. The way companies are going to look at it is, why let him pull doubles if he has a hard time pulling one trailer.

They handle a lot differently and are not as forgiving as a single tractor if you screw up.

bentstrider · Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Posts: 97 Location: Hesperia, CA

Well, this was a fatigue-related matter.
So, I'm pretty deep in the hole as far as that one goes.
Anywho, plenty of owner-op's I've come across that may give me a chance.
Only thing I have to remember is get enough rest/sleep.
As true with any other career that has been fired towards me.
Asleep at the wheel=crash
Asleep while engineering a bridge component=collapse
Asleep while performing an operation=malpractice lawsuit.

Not trying to be funny, but I'm just stating that my weakness is over-commiting, and throwing everything else to the side.
Anywho, persistence is eventually going to pay off in on way or another.
And I'll be saving up my future, college funds, while those fratboys are flooding those late-night, college-loan commercial hotlines.

Elmdor · Joined: 18 Jul 2007 Posts: 38

If you had your own truck and someone came to you and said, "Will you hire me? I had a rollover accident and fatigue related issues, but I have 14 months of experience" would you hire that person? Probably not, because if something happened, the owner is going to take a pretty big hit to his bottom line.

This probably isn't the right career for you if you think you're going to make big bucks or if you think you need to do it to prove something to yourself or to fix your ego.

Also, Company's that can't afford to lose drivers, or have an open position (like delivery drivers, or someone with a specific route that's been around awhile and knows ins and outs or can cut through office politics) will usually keep a driver even if he screws up big. In 2003 I hit the same car twice, but I kept my job because it's not easy finding someone who will hand unload a 53' ft trailer full of biohazardous waste.

I'm not trying to be a dick, just being realistic.

ironeagle2006 · Joined: 29 Sep 2006 Posts: 865

If you want to pull Reefer Try Henderson they may give you a try they have a regional plan out of CA or you can run OTR.

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