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Orangetxguy
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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Raafi wrote: i was going to apply to OOIDA, until i heard that they supported this 68mph limiter and the black box thingamajig
but we have to do something, these people wont stop until truck driving becomes a minimum wage job
Ummmmmmmm..if you were to count all the "time" away from home, while you are driving OTR, as "work" time, then truck driving wages, for most, are below minimum wage. |
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Raafi
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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| thank you for that correction KC |
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countryhorseman
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Location: The Great State of Texas - Seguin
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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Raafi wrote: i was going to apply to OOIDA, until i heard that they supported this 68mph limiter and the black box thingamajig
but we have to do something, these people wont stop until truck driving becomes a minimum wage job
You have your facts mixed up with the ATA, the ATA is out for big business. OOIDA is for the good of the truck driver.
The ATA has on numerous occasions, publicly, backed the black boxes and the governed speed limits. In fact, it was the ATA that petitioned the FMCSA to implement the speed limiters.
Here, I have provided a link that will clear things up for you:
http://www.ooida.com/Documents/Press_Releases/OOIDA_opposes_ATA_spd_limiter.html
Nowhere and at no time has OOIDA favored the Black Box or the 68mph issue. If you would go to there website and do a search, read up on there briefs to the FMCSA. If it were not for the efforts of OOIDA, we would all be driving 8 hour days at 60 mph, that is what Public Citizen wants. |
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countryhorseman
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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kc0iv wrote: Raafi wrote: i was going to apply to OOIDA, until i heard that they supported this 68mph limiter and the black box thingamajig
but we have to do something, these people wont stop until truck driving becomes a minimum wage job
I suggest you find a new source for your information.
I can't say anything about 68 MPH directly but I do know OOIDA has been leading the way on keeping "black boxes" out of trucks. Doing a search of OOIDA website I found many comments in respect the lowering of truck speeds. In all that I read they are against any reduction of any truck speed that makes truck speed lower than auto speeds.
As far as "black boxes"
See:
http://www.ooida.com/at_issue/HOS/OOIDA_slams_EOBs.html
http://www.ooida.com/straight_talk/120104_EOBR_Comments.PDF
and many more. I suggest you search OOIDA website and enter "Black Box" and "MPH".
kc0iv
Oops, guess I should have read the next couple of post before I replied. Thanks KC0IV. Although I did provide the link to clear up the speed limiter issue. |
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kc0iv
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Location: Kansas City, MO
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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countryhorseman wrote:
Oops, guess I should have read the next couple of post before I replied. Thanks KC0IV. Although I did provide the link to clear up the speed limiter issue.
I find the number of drivers that don't know what OOIDA does surprising. Be an O/O or a company driver. I don't agree with everything OOIDA does but I agree with most.
Thanks for the link. I new it was there but didn't take the time to find it. In addition maybe Raafi (and others) will go to OOIDA and find out what they are about.
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countryhorseman
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[quote="kc0iv"] countryhorseman wrote:
I find the number of drivers that don't know what OOIDA does surprising. Be an O/O or a company driver. I don't agree with everything OOIDA does but I agree with most.
Thanks for the link. I new it was there but didn't take the time to find it. In addition maybe Raafi (and others) will go to OOIDA and find out what they are about.
kc0iv
I have to definitely agree with you on that! OOIDA has numerous programs that are very helpful and useful. So many drivers fail to find out enough of their industry to truly make the most of it.
For some reason I had that link saved in my favorites, somewhere along the line I had referenced it before. |
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dle
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| JB and Swift aren't the only ones that are governed to 65. So is WERNER. |
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countryhorseman
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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dle wrote: JB and Swift aren't the only ones that are governed to 65. So is WERNER.
I wonder about Swift sometimes, I have had several of their company trucks blow my doors off lately.
As you said, numerous companies have 65 or 68 mph trucks, but many have drivers that have respect others, and do not have elephant races uphill on a interstate highway, and not have the sense for one or the other to back off, so that that mile long traffic jam behind them can get by. I am not pointing the finger at any one company, those drivers with no respect are everywhere.
Even the ones that can run triple digits have no respect, for the simple fact they are trying to commit murder, by tailgating an SUV with young childen in it, at 75 mph. |
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dle
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| They may be like the O/O and L/O at Werner - their trucks aren't governed. |
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countryhorseman
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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dle wrote: They may be like the O/O and L/O at Werner - their trucks aren't governed.
No, these are definitely company side drivers and trucks, I know the difference. |
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dle
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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beg to differ, but if they have werner on the side and they are going faster than 65 they are not company drivers.
I drive a kw900 for them and I keep getting asked if I'm an o/o - I dissapoint them when i tell them i am a company driver. |
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countryhorseman
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:14 am Post subject: |
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dle wrote: beg to differ, but if they have werner on the side and they are going faster than 65 they are not company drivers.
I drive a kw900 for them and I keep getting asked if I'm an o/o - I dissapoint them when i tell them i am a company driver.
dle, I believe my post referred to Swift trucks, not Werner!
Quote: I wonder about Swift sometimes, I have had several of their company trucks blow my doors off lately. |
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