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SemperFi
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:44 pm Post subject: Why are companies believed over the driver? |
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| I have been trying to get back on the road for the past 4 months. I have filled out application after application with limited response. Finally, I cornered a recruiter who turned me down over the phone. I asked her why and she proceeded to rattle off several incidents on my DAC. I then sent out an email to every company to which I applied and explained my side (re: TRUTH) of the DAC report. I received zero response. Apparently, and please correct me if I am wrong, but, the company is believed over me, WHY? Why would companies do this? |
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mike3fan
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Get a copy of your DAC,and correct any false statements. |
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SemperFi
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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mike3fan wrote:
Quote: Get a copy of your DAC,and correct any false statements.
I am in the process of doing just that. However, what are the chances of these entries being reversed? What is in question is whether an event was preventable (I drove on some grass rather than roll over two illegally parked cars, and had a roll gate close on me while backing through) or as I maintain, not my fault and not preventable. Why am I not believed now? |
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Uturn2001
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Location: East Central IL between the corn and the beans
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Are you listing the incidents on your applications? If you are not then right there is 3/4 of the problem. |
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Twilight Flyer
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: I am in the process of doing just that. However, what are the chances of these entries being reversed?
Slim to none.
Quote: What is in question is whether an event was preventable (I drove on some grass rather than roll over two illegally parked cars, and had a roll gate close on me while backing through) or as I maintain, not my fault and not preventable. Why am I not believed now?
Those sound rather minor, so I would be inclined to believe that either the company is saying something different or there is another reason you are being denied. |
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SemperFi
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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Uturn2001 wrote
Quote: Are you listing the incidents on your applications? If you are not then right there is 3/4 of the problem.
Yes I am, AND I am following up with an email, or letter, in the event of a mail-in, that explains my side.
Twilight Flyer wrote:
Quote: Those sound rather minor, so I would be inclined to believe that either the company is saying something different or there is another reason you are being denied.
That is what I was told by the ONE recruiter who didn't give me "we don't release that information" or "we have other candidates who are more what we are looking for" |
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SemperFi
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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I am in the process of doing just that. However, what are the chances of these entries being reversed?
Slim to none.
Really, why? No police were called for either incident, no tickets were issued. Safety put their own spin on my DAC after I relayed the facts to them. Why are they allowed to get away with that? Why am I not believed? As far as I know, no insurance claim was ever made for the grass. The roll gate was lifted up on to the rollers by me and the yard manager.
This is killing us. For medical reasons I have not worked for 8 months and I want to get back to driving. My wife and I are about to lose everything we have worked for and all because of misinformation, why does no one believe the driver? |
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Uturn2001
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Are you listing the accidents as preventable or non preventable on your applications.
BTW: At many companies if you are moving the truck and hit or run over anything that you are not suppose to then it is a preventable accident/incident. |
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SemperFi
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Uturn2001 wrote:
Quote: Are you listing the accidents as preventable or non preventable on your applications.
Non-preventable and then I explain with my side |
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Twilight Flyer
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Quote: This is killing us. For medical reasons I have not worked for 8 months and I want to get back to driving
You might have just answered your own question. I would guess that your medical issues might be serious enough that a company can't work with them. Are they back problems? Cardiac issues? Anything that would exclude you from performing the job? |
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Sheepdancer
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like you got the raw deal and that sucks. However, I think the company side of things need to be explained. Its not that we believe the company over you. Its because no matter what we have to go by what your DAC says. I know that some drivers sometimes get screwed by their DAC and I know sometimes there is wrong information on there. However, like your credit report, if there is something wrong on there, its up to you to fix it. When recruiting, as much as I would like to give exceptions to drivers who sure sound like the have a legitmant gripe. We just cant. If we did, that would open up the door for everyone to make excuses and have legit reasons why their DAC is wrong. About 98% of whats on DAC is right....2% wrong...sorry if it sucks that you are in that 2%.
Although DAC is flawed, its the best thing we have. Until someone comes up with a better way, we have to live with it. Keep in mind though the more accurate better way might be good for companies but much worse for drivers. Imagine if someone came up with a "driver lie detector" test that was 100% accurate. That would be great for companies and it could get rid of DAC....however it would suck to be a driver and have to go through that... revealing every part of your history and life. |
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SemperFi
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Twilight Flyer wrote:
Quote: You might have just answered your own question. I would guess that your medical issues might be serious enough that a company can't work with them. Are they back problems? Cardiac issues? Anything that would exclude you from performing the job?
None of the above. I had a brain tumor (benign) that was removed in February. They didn't get all of it the first time.The subsequent procedure and radiation procedures lasted all the way through May. I have a professional letter signed by my family physician, neurosurgeon, and endocrinologist, stating that I am fully recovered and ready to rejoin the workforce. I even had a DOT physical in May that I passed. |
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Fozzy
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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| It really doesn't matter what you call these incidents. It matters what the company you worked for calls them and using the industry standard, both you posted were totally preventable. The time off and the nature of the medical problem will also not help much. |
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Uturn2001
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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You would probably be better off listing these as preventable and then explain your side of things.
Sometimes with companies, it is not so much what happened, but how accurate you match what is on your DAC. They view it as an "honesty" issue. |
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SemperFi
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| I was told no one wants to hire someone with 3 preventables, PERIOD! These incidents may have been preventable, but not by me. This is just wrong!! |
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