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scania
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 6:06 am Post subject: Anybody heard? |
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At my job they were talking there is a bill in the making that allows illegal aliens to "buy" their papers for $5000.
Any truth to that?? |
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golfhobo
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Location: the 19th hole / NC
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 6:14 am Post subject: Re: Anybody heard? |
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scania wrote: At my job they were talking there is a bill in the making that allows illegal aliens to "buy" their papers for $5000.
Any truth to that??
Some truth, yes. It is the fine that must be paid by the illegals under the "proposed" bill. This was all over the news for the last 2 days, along with all the other provisions, requirements, etc....
Don't jump to conclusions that this is some kind of citizenship for cash deal. |
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DaveP
Joined: 03 Mar 2007
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Location: "The Shoals", Alabama
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 6:27 am Post subject: |
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Just a way to raise a quick $60,000,000,000.00.
Teddy's shooting for it because he needs a piece of that for some highway money and a bronze bust of himself in the garden. |
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Fourcats
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Location: Longview, Washington
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 10:44 am Post subject: |
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It won't cost them anything.
Our "representatives" are giving away the country... :x :x :x
Actually the "bill" is not finshed yet, they are still trying to translate it into ENGLISH |
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One
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| Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| Heres all the info on that topic: http://candidatereviews.org/forums/index.php?topic=61.0 |
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SteveBooth
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| Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 7:30 am Post subject: |
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| It's true but the head of the household must return to Mexico and file the papers there before they can come back along with the $5,000 fine. |
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Fozzy
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| They are talking about the people that are already here.. if they all stay.. what really has changed??? |
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One
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| At least big business can charge them money for it and create an indentured servitude business...Im imagining work camps already...I dont know what to think about this bill right now... |
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Fourcats
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This shows how far removed the "elite" Democrats AND Republicans are from is needed first, secure borders. Something like Mexico's south border would work.
As soon as this bill is signed there will be LOTS more people and ALL thier relatives "in the system" with Welfare and medical services overloaded. Just how much will that cost you, besides your job??
Need to call/Email your "representatives" and tell them to vote "NO" on it. |
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jnk2001
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Location: Lynden, WA
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Fourcats wrote: This shows how far removed the "elite" Democrats AND Republicans are from is needed first, secure borders. Something like Mexico's south border would work.
Have you seen the border at El Paso? It looks like a demilitarized zone...
nothing but dead space. really sad actually!
As soon as this bill is signed there will be LOTS more people and ALL thier relatives "in the system" with Welfare and medical services overloaded. Just how much will that cost you, besides your job??
Need to call/Email your "representatives" and tell them to vote "NO" on it. |
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Fozzy
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| I think if we had a contest on just who are the biggest drain on the system between the (if this actually becomes law) domestic welfare types and the immigrants.. I'm thinking that AGAIN the immigrants not even be a blip on the screen compared to the professional welfare/entitlement class we grew domestically. |
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bameyi
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| fozzy is right domestic welfare drain the system more in food stamp, section 8 and will not get a job. have anyone seen the sticker's on car keep up the good job people on welfare depend on you. |
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BigWheels
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Fozzy wrote: I think if we had a contest on just who are the biggest drain on the system between the (if this actually becomes law) domestic welfare types and the immigrants.. I'm thinking that AGAIN the immigrants not even be a blip on the screen compared to the professional welfare/entitlement class we grew domestically.
What scares me is all of the people who aren't saving for retirement. In 20+ years they will be clamoring for the government to take care of them--that's after they receive their social security check--it won't be enough for them and the lifestyle they're accustomed to.
Unfortunately, the entitlement mentality will not fade away any time soon unless we all tell our politicians to stop the madness. Otherwise, nothing will change and you and I will watch a further erosion of our paycheck(s) in the future. |
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BigWheels
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bameyi wrote: ...have anyone seen the sticker's on car keep up the good job people on welfare depend on you.
ain't that the truth! :shock: :sad: |
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Fozzy
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BigWheels wrote: Fozzy wrote: I think if we had a contest on just who are the biggest drain on the system between the (if this actually becomes law) domestic welfare types and the immigrants.. I'm thinking that AGAIN the immigrants not even be a blip on the screen compared to the professional welfare/entitlement class we grew domestically.
What scares me is all of the people who aren't saving for retirement. In 20+ years they will be clamoring for the government to take care of them--that's after they receive their social security check--it won't be enough for them and the lifestyle they're accustomed to.
Unfortunately, the entitlement mentality will not fade away any time soon unless we all tell our politicians to stop the madness. Otherwise, nothing will change and you and I will watch a further erosion of our paycheck(s) in the future.
This is the working class / entitlement class merge. I try to explain the social security issue like it is FACTUALLY. The social security program is exaclty like car insurance. You pay premiums and hope nothing goes wrong. This is the way that the program was designed. It's another good intentioned program that has been perverted into what it is now. How many of us actually see any of the money that we pay into our insurance companies again? The only time that you should expect to see the money is if of CANNOT WORK! CAN NOT! We now have a system where able bodied and relatively healthy people are "retiring" and living off the rest of our money for 25-30 years! This is almost the same amount of time the spent working! There is no way that they have put that much money into the system, but they darned sure demand to spend it. |
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