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red12
Joined: 19 Jul 2005
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Location: St. Louis, MO
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 4:50 pm Post subject: Class B driver? |
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| Can they go out of state to drive or is it just interstate forgot? |
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Jackrabbit379
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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| You can run Interstate with Class B. Just as long as the trailer's gross weight is less than, 10,000 lbs. |
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red12
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Hmm ok well this one guy I talked said when he used to drive with his class be he drove out of state I gess hes just lucky he didnt get caught. |
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MADLUX
Joined: 05 Jun 2005
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Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| you can drive out of state with a class b |
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red12
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh you can I must of had it confused with the 21 rule where you cant if your under 21 am I right? |
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silvan
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Location: Working at Wal-Mart.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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MADLUX wrote: you can drive out of state with a class b Yes you can. I even had to carry a logbook, even though I was a 100 air mile driver.
Class B... The best thing I can say about that is what they said to me when I started. "Keep your class A."
Damn straight. |
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red12
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Learn something new every day in the truckin industry. |
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marylandkw
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Location: Maryland
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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Class B or even Class C have nothing to do with where you can drive only WHAT you can drive.
Class A=any vehicle and trailer except motorcycles
Class B=any single vehicle with or without a trailer under 10,000 pounds GVWR(thats the weight rating not the actual weight of the trailer)except motorcycles
Class C=Any vehicle under 26,001 with or without a trailer under 10,000 pounds GVWR. except motorcycles
And of course you have to have endorsements for..
Hazmat
Doubles and triples
Passenger(more than 17 people including the driver in one vehicle)
School Bus
Tanker
Air Brakes(this is more a restriction than an endorsement)
And of course under 21, don't leave your state.
I know guys who go interstate with 80,000 pounds on a class B all the time. They just happen to have 4 lift axles. |
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MADLUX
Joined: 05 Jun 2005
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Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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red12 wrote: Oh you can I must of had it confused with the 21 rule where you cant if your under 21 am I right?
The rule is if you are under 21, you cannot drive a cdl vehicle out of your licensed state, if you are over 21 then you can drive all over the country if you wanted to.
I'm 20, sucks for me :cry: |
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marylandkw
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| MADLUX wrote: I'm 20, sucks for me :cry: Well at least you don't live in Rhode Island :lol: |
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ben45750
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| On the trailer weight, you can pull a trailer over 10,000 pounds as long as the combination is under 26,000 pounds without a class A license. |
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marylandkw
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Location: Maryland
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ben45750 wrote: On the trailer weight, you can pull a trailer over 10,000 pounds as long as the combination is under 26,000 pounds without a class A license. Ben I believe you are incorrect sir. I am in somewhat of a hurry and can't find the most official text on this but from some quick searching on Google I found this one. http://www.skidzz.com/license/classes.shtml
It agrees with me as far as any single vehicle over 26000 and any trailer under 10000. Back in the days when I wore a badge I wrote many a ticket for this as well.
If you would like better evidence let me know, I will be happy to find it.
Monkey House Rocks the D-Sippers. |
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ben45750
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http://www.bmv.ohio.gov/driver_license/cdl.htm#cdl
Class A – any combination of vehicles with a combined gross vehicle weight rating of twenty-six thousand one pounds or more, if the gross vehicle weight rating of the vehicle or vehicles being towed is in excess of ten thousand pounds.
Class B – any single vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of twenty-six thousand one pounds or more or any such vehicle towing a vehicle having a gross vehicle weight rating that is not in excess of ten thousand pounds.
Class C – any single vehicle, or combination of vehicles, that is not a Class A or Class B vehicle, but that is designed to transport sixteen or more passengers, including the driver, or is transporting hazardous materials in an amount requiring placarding, or any school bus with a gross vehicle weight rating of less than twenty-six thousand one pounds that is designed to transport fewer than sixteen passengers including the driver.
Not trying to start an argument but most people think that you do need to CDL to pull a 10,000 + pound trailer but you don't. Just trying to make sure people have the correct information.
Class A is required if the total combination is over 26,000 pounds with a trailer with a GVWR over 10,000. Class B your single vehicles GVWR can be over 26,000 pounds but the trailer has to be under 10,000 GVWR. Now under the Class C description it just says the combination MUST be under 26,000 pounds but does not specify you have to have a Class A or Class B to pull a trailer over 10,000 GVWR if the combination GVWR is under 26,000.
But I also have first hand experience that it is legal to pull a trailer with a GVWR of 10,000 pounds or more. Before getting my CDL I hauled cars with a 2 car trailer, it had a GVWR of 14,000 pounds. I had to roll over the scales if loaded, when empty a DOT number was not displayed so I could bypass the scales and as far as the DOT knew I was using the trailer for my personal use. Now when you are inspected (which happened to me several times) they would check the registration of the trailer and the GVWR of the truck which is located in the driver's side door jamb, as long as those two numbers are under 26,000 pounds your legal. |
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marylandkw
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I stand corrected, We were not talking about the same thing. I had class B stuck in my head.
I might be dense but I certainly don't need 72 point font and colors to figure it out. :D |
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ben45750
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| You are right though too because on the Maryland's MVA website it does say that you cannot pull a trailer over 10,000 with out a Class A if it's a commercial trailer (taking forever to post the link to MVA's website) Best to avoid MD though if you don't have a class A. |
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