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Part Time Dweller
Joined: 06 Jan 2007
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Location: Western Chicago Suburb, IL
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| Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Highwayman wrote:
About the only thing I used glad hand locks for was to keep some moron from snagging my empty trailer when I would drop it at the company yard and bobtail home or to eat, etc.
A red "Out of Service" tag works for that also. I would have one from our shop in my truck and when I went home I would always drop the trailer so I could put the tractor in the barn, especially during the winter months.
Another trick for saving an empty at the yard is to put a seal on it. Every other driver will take one look and move on. |
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drippy
Joined: 24 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:32 am Post subject: |
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Quote: It is rather convenient you would start another thread. But the answer is the same. When you leave your load in a unsecured area, stuff will get stolen.
Did you get permission from Walmart to leave your truck on their lot? Not likely. Yes I did, matter of fact I have written permission.
Did you get a tape of your dispatcher giving you the OK to leave it there?
Not likely. I have no way of taping conversations currently.
And did you pay the police department to watch your truck?
Again, not likely. Yes I did, I pay property tax in county. Have you ever read "PROTECT AND SERVE.?
And you didn't tarp your loads, so they were open to the public. Finally you hit a right answer...though I did request from the dispatch a decision to tarp or not to tarp...
So your company is keeping your bonus. Like everybody stated on that other post, BIG Whoop. ....could you please send me your extra "BIG WHOOP"? ...baby needs a new pair of shoes...
The true issue here as follows :
If we are always responsibilty for the load, why are we not paid on a 24/7 basis? How much are you willing to do for NO MONEY? I do not mind the responsibility....just pay me for it.
BTW...as you so cleverly pointed out....I did post this issue twice. I apologize for possessing the power to make you read and respond against your will....just felt this was an issue that should be noted. |
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ssoutlaw
Joined: 06 Sep 2006
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Location: Indianapolis,In
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| Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:51 am Post subject: |
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drippy wrote: Quote: It is rather convenient you would start another thread. But the answer is the same. When you leave your load in a unsecured area, stuff will get stolen.
Did you get permission from Walmart to leave your truck on their lot? Not likely. Yes I did, matter of fact I have written permission.
Did you get a tape of your dispatcher giving you the OK to leave it there?
Not likely. I have no way of taping conversations currently.
And did you pay the police department to watch your truck?
Again, not likely. Yes I did, I pay property tax in county. Have you ever read "PROTECT AND SERVE.?
And you didn't tarp your loads, so they were open to the public. Finally you hit a right answer...though I did request from the dispatch a decision to tarp or not to tarp...
So your company is keeping your bonus. Like everybody stated on that other post, BIG Whoop. ....could you please send me your extra "BIG WHOOP"? ...baby needs a new pair of shoes...
The true issue here as follows :
If we are always responsibilty for the load, why are we not paid on a 24/7 basis? How much are you willing to do for NO MONEY? I do not mind the responsibility....just pay me for it.
BTW...as you so cleverly pointed out....I did post this issue twice. I apologize for possessing the power to make you read and respond against your will....just felt this was an issue that should be noted.
I think we should end this topic. To have used reasonable care you should have tarped the load, to keep prying eyes off the load. This is the place you went wrong! It has been pounded to death already and conceded to that there is a time you are not responsible. Let it go, you have learned and hopefully wont make this mistake again.. |
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drippy
Joined: 24 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:59 am Post subject: |
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| I agree...'nuff said. |
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ssoutlaw
Joined: 06 Sep 2006
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Location: Indianapolis,In
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| Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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drippy wrote: I agree...'nuff said.
No not enough said! Quit letting your kid SMOKE....lol |
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drippy
Joined: 24 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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ssoutlaw wrote: drippy wrote: I agree...'nuff said.
No not enough said! Quit letting your kid SMOKE....lol
I thought I had a lit one somewhere...... |
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ssoutlaw
Joined: 06 Sep 2006
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Location: Indianapolis,In
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| Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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drippy wrote: ssoutlaw wrote: drippy wrote: I agree...'nuff said.
No not enough said! Quit letting your kid SMOKE....lol
I thought I had a lit one somewhere......
That's contributing to the delinquency of a Minor, you should be ashamed...lol :) |
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mbadriver
Joined: 19 Oct 2007
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Location: I94 Exit 69
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Uturn2001 wrote: Check the employment laws of the state this company is based out of. In many states it is totally illegal to hold employees responsible for losses and to withold wages, unless you agree to it in writing at the time, to reimburse the company for those losses, regardless of what you may have signed during orientation.
Deducting from an employee's paycheck is a big no no. |
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Fredog
Joined: 23 Apr 2005
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Location: North Georgia
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| (h)(1) Off duty. Except for time spent resting in a sleeper berth, a continuous line shall be drawn between the appropriate time markers to record the period(s) of time when the driver is not on duty, is not required to be in readiness to work, or is not under any responsibility for performing work. |
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BIG JEEP on 44's
Joined: 09 Jul 2005
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Location: Fixing something under my jeep
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| Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:28 am Post subject: |
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Part Time Dweller wrote: Glad hand locks? You are joking, right?
A crescent wrench and 30 seconds will have the glad hand with your lock attached removed and another one screwed in its place. :lol:
The thing a glad hand lock is good for is keeping DA drivers from hooking a drop trailer at a dock before it is ready. And I wouldn't even bet on that, judging by all the ICC bumpers that get ripped off because a driver thought red meant go on the dock lock light panel. :?
He he yep...I've done that a few times when I was in laredo at the Werner terminal ,and drivers would put their locks on the glad hands to "save " themselves an empty while they camped at the Pilot ...only to come back and find their glad hands removed/swapped to a red tagged trailer . |
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BIG JEEP on 44's
Joined: 09 Jul 2005
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Location: Fixing something under my jeep
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| Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:28 am Post subject: |
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Part Time Dweller wrote: Glad hand locks? You are joking, right?
A crescent wrench and 30 seconds will have the glad hand with your lock attached removed and another one screwed in its place. :lol:
The thing a glad hand lock is good for is keeping DA drivers from hooking a drop trailer at a dock before it is ready. And I wouldn't even bet on that, judging by all the ICC bumpers that get ripped off because a driver thought red meant go on the dock lock light panel. :?
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headborg
Joined: 06 Nov 2007
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BIG JEEP on 44's wrote: Part Time Dweller wrote: Glad hand locks? You are joking, right?
A crescent wrench and 30 seconds will have the glad hand with your lock attached removed and another one screwed in its place. :lol:
The thing a glad hand lock is good for is keeping DA drivers from hooking a drop trailer at a dock before it is ready. And I wouldn't even bet on that, judging by all the ICC bumpers that get ripped off because a driver thought red meant go on the dock lock light panel. :?
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I don't know-- I kinda like the glad hand locks myself--- most thieves are too lazy to "work" a crescent wrench- and don't carry spare glad hands with them. And sure wouldn't hang around to repair the lines(if they broke them- while knocking off the lock) The enforcer kingpin lock-- is real easy to drill out the cam lock- then pry out the drawer lock and remove.
Same goes for those dash mounted air valve locks--- like you said-- just have 2 of the plastic valve covers(.99cent?? available inside the T/A shop)-- sure you might crack the plastic dash prying off the lock--but still- 5 minutes or less and you're down the road in a slightly damaged tractor. |
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chuck3507
Joined: 19 Oct 2006
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Location: Texas
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| In my opinion, yes off duty means that you have no responsibility to the truck. However, before going off duty you were on duty and had the responsibilty of parking the truck in a secure and legal place. If you slipped while climbing out of the truck while on an off duty restart would you tell the company they were not responsible for the medical bills? |
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ChikinTrucka
Joined: 06 Jan 2008
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Location: Maine, Ayah
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| Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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Fredog wrote: (h)(1) Off duty. Except for time spent resting in a sleeper berth, a continuous line shall be drawn between the appropriate time markers to record the period(s) of time when the driver is not on duty, is not required to be in readiness to work, or is not under any responsibility for performing work.
The law in Maine, and I thought it was federal, is that you "MUST HAVE IN WRITING, PERMISSION TO LOG OFF DUTY" while on the road. The only time I am not responsible for my load, is when I drop the trailer at the terminal and give them the paperwork. If you log "OFF DUTY" anyplace other than when you are at home, you must either put your rig into an authorized secure lot with surveillance, or have documentation from your employer that specifically states that you are not responsible for the load, or even an empty truck, when logging off duty. Without this documentation, you are still in "readiness for work" and under "any responsibility for performing work"
At least that is how I interpret the law. |
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Fredog
Joined: 23 Apr 2005
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Location: North Georgia
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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ChikinTrucka wrote: Fredog wrote: (h)(1) Off duty. Except for time spent resting in a sleeper berth, a continuous line shall be drawn between the appropriate time markers to record the period(s) of time when the driver is not on duty, is not required to be in readiness to work, or is not under any responsibility for performing work.
The law in Maine, and I thought it was federal, is that you "MUST HAVE IN WRITING, PERMISSION TO LOG OFF DUTY" while on the road. The only time I am not responsible for my load, is when I drop the trailer at the terminal and give them the paperwork. If you log "OFF DUTY" anyplace other than when you are at home, you must either put your rig into an authorized secure lot with surveillance, or have documentation from your employer that specifically states that you are not responsible for the load, or even an empty truck, when logging off duty. Without this documentation, you are still in "readiness for work" and under "any responsibility for performing work"
At least that is how I interpret the law.
pretty clear
(h)(1) Off duty. Except for time spent resting in a sleeper berth, a continuous line shall be drawn between the appropriate time markers to record the period(s) of time when the driver is not on duty, is not required to be in readiness to work, or is not under any responsibility for performing work. |
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