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BATTERY QUESTION
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Lewis friend



Joined: 18 Jan 2007
Posts: 245

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:35 am    Post subject: BATTERY QUESTION  

I want to use a deep cycle battery in the truck to run appliances.

Can i wire this battery to the truck's existing battery bank to recharge it?
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Rev.Vassago



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 6224
Location: The other side of the coin

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:23 am    Post subject: Re: BATTERY QUESTION  

Lewis friend wrote: I want to use a deep cycle battery in the truck to run appliances.

Can i wire this battery to the truck's existing battery bank to recharge it?

If you want to do this, you need a diode isolator, or the deep cycle battery is going to shorten the life of the starting battery.

Here's some info I found on it:

http://www.uuhome.de/william.darden/carfaq7.htm#multi
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Blind Driver



Joined: 12 Apr 2006
Posts: 496
Location: New Albany, IN

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:07 pm    Post subject:  

Those 4 1000amp batteries should be all you need
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Lewis friend



Joined: 18 Jan 2007
Posts: 245

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:42 pm    Post subject:  

I want to run a small quartz heater or similar all night---8 hours. Do you think the 4 batteries should be enough?


Like this:
http://www.biotechresearch.com/epure_heater.php
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Rev.Vassago



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 6224
Location: The other side of the coin

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:52 pm    Post subject:  

Lewis friend wrote: I want to run a small quartz heater or similar all night---8 hours. Do you think the 4 batteries should be enough?


Like this:
http://www.biotechresearch.com/epure_heater.php

The system you linked to runs at 6.5 Amps and 750 Watts. I wouldn't expect it to run for more than a few minutes before your batteries are drained. That is the equivelant of running a small microwave off of battery power - it just doesn't work.

Then again, that system you linked too is WAY TOO BIG for a truck anyway. It is designed for a 300 square foot room, and your truck is about 80-100 sq ft, not counting any cabinets.

Running a sytem like that off of a standard set of batteries will GREATLY reduce the life of the battery, as the battery is not designed for a deep cycle such as that.

I would look into getting a diesel fired bunk heater. It does the job, and is designed for the application that you want to use it for. Webasto and Espar are probably the two biggest names.
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Blind Driver



Joined: 12 Apr 2006
Posts: 496
Location: New Albany, IN

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:52 pm    Post subject:  

X2 on the diesel fired bunk heater

Mine blows so hot, I can heat up soup to a boil when the can it placed at the outlet 8)
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Crash935



Joined: 06 Mar 2005
Posts: 366
Location: Grand Rapids MI

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:14 pm    Post subject:  

X3 on the bunk heater.

i figured it would pay for its self in less than 1.5 months of cold weather
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allan5oh



Joined: 26 Aug 2005
Posts: 2233
Location: jackassville (winnipeg, mb)

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:59 pm    Post subject:  

You're right crash. One night it was almost -40, I decided to idle the truck. Used almost $20 in fuel!
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Crash935



Joined: 06 Mar 2005
Posts: 366
Location: Grand Rapids MI

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:11 am    Post subject:  

Its so cheap to run the darn thing that i go out the night before i leave and turn it on so that i atleast have a nice warm cab to climb into and dont have to wait forever for the truck to warm up.

Heres a link to ESPAR, they have a cost calculator on their sight,

http://www.espar.com/
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allan5oh



Joined: 26 Aug 2005
Posts: 2233
Location: jackassville (winnipeg, mb)

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:52 pm    Post subject:  

BTW, that 6.5 amps is at 120 volts. 65 amps at 12 volts. That's some serious current draw.
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allan5oh



Joined: 26 Aug 2005
Posts: 2233
Location: jackassville (winnipeg, mb)

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:53 pm    Post subject:  

To be honest, that heater is too small anyways. 750 watts is nothing. That's about 2500 BTU's. Espars put out over double that.
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Lewis friend



Joined: 18 Jan 2007
Posts: 245

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:19 am    Post subject:  

OK, um....i probably can't run the espar because i'm a company driver and i don't know how i can route the exhaust tube out the truck without drillin.

It's a good product though.

What i think i'd like to do is get a small ceramic heater of 1500watts. 1500 seems like the smallest i can find. And that would probably be 900W on low setting.

Getting 1,2,or 3 deep cycle batteries is no problem.

Basically, i'm trying to figure out how to recharge these batteries.
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Rev.Vassago



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 6224
Location: The other side of the coin

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:55 pm    Post subject:  

I think you'd be better off getting a 12V electric blanket before re-wiring the truck to add all those batteries. I doubt your company would approve of you adding all those batteries to the system, without putting a larger alternator on the truck (which ain't gonna be cheap). In the long run, it would be cheaper to explore different options.
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Lewis friend



Joined: 18 Jan 2007
Posts: 245

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:15 pm    Post subject:  

In that case, do you feel something like this would be safe to use in the trk? (i don't think/feel so)

http://www.mrheater.com/productdetails_extended.asp?catid=41&id=24

Would it be safer to use the 20lb. container and keep that outside on the catwalk? The fuel is now outside.

Actually, how much wattage does the blanket use? Can i get away with useing something like that all night?
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special k



Joined: 10 Jul 2005
Posts: 254
Location: Ontario Canada

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 6:57 pm    Post subject:  

You won't have any problems with an electric blanket being on all night. Thats all I use and I haven't idled my truck yet this year. I run Ont/Mi so I see some cold weather. Looking at the gas heater I have used a similar heater in a pop up tent trailer but your company may object due to having a propane cylinder and red hot element inside the truck. If they don't care I would check the air with a carbon monoxide tester while it's running and maybe crack open the the sleeper vent by your head.
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