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Heads up on a new PA traffic law
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Truckfam



Joined: 08 Jun 2006
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:49 pm    Post subject: Heads up on a new PA traffic law  

I know it is hard to keep track of all laws, especially the new ones. The new law is that in winter you have to take all snow and ice off of your vehicle. If you are driving, and snow or ice falling off of your car, van, or truck causes an accident you can be fined from $200 to $2000.

I don't know all implications for the big rigs. I don't really see how you can safely get off the snow and possible ice of the top of those trucks. I thought some of you might want to know just in case.

Drive safely, and happy trucking.
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Mackman



Joined: 14 Sep 2005
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Location: Concordville PA

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:35 pm    Post subject:  

leave it up to PA :evil:
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mapleleaf_1



Joined: 13 Nov 2006
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Location: Wisconsin

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:42 pm    Post subject:  

The truck I can handle but there's no way I'm getting snow or ice off the top of the trailer. Where do these people come up with these ideas?? :x
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Part Time Dweller



Joined: 06 Jan 2007
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Location: Western Chicago Suburb, IL

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:13 pm    Post subject:  

mapleleaf_1 wrote: The truck I can handle but there's no way I'm getting snow or ice off the top of the trailer. Where do these people come up with these ideas?? :x
Probably from cleaning up wrecks caused by sheets of ice flying off trailers into traffic. :roll:

They aren't saying you have to clean it off, just if if the snow/ ice from your trailer causes a wreck, you are going to get a ticket,which would be the least of you worries if it is a serious accident. The plaintiffs lawyers will make that fine seem like nothing. :lol:
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Uturn2001



Joined: 10 Jan 2005
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Location: East Central IL between the corn and the beans

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:16 pm    Post subject:  

Yeah it is a real shame some fools have to follow so close to another vehicle to get hit by the snow and ice. :roll: :roll: :roll:
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mapleleaf_1



Joined: 13 Nov 2006
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:23 pm    Post subject:  

PartTime I was just thinking about me cleaning it off and falling or hurting myself in some way. Then what do I do? Drive safe everyone. :)
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Part Time Dweller



Joined: 06 Jan 2007
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Location: Western Chicago Suburb, IL

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:35 pm    Post subject:  

Uturn2001 wrote: Yeah it is a real shame some fools have to follow so close to another vehicle to get hit by the snow and ice. :roll: :roll: :roll:


Uturn, tailgating isn't an issue here. Ice sheets will fly off a trailer with with such force that vehicles 50 -100 feet back will get nailed. So will oncoming traffic if the wind is right. Been on the receiving end of the flying ice before.:shock

Nice attempt on trying to pass it off on the 4 wheeler though. :roll: :
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Part Time Dweller



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Location: Western Chicago Suburb, IL

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:39 pm    Post subject:  

mapleleaf_1 wrote: PartTime I was just thinking about me cleaning it off and falling or hurting myself in some way. Then what do I do? Drive safe everyone. :)

I wouldn't climb up there either, just now, a driver will get a ticket if flying ice or snow causes an accident.

I guess after a motorist got killed in PA last year by flying ice, the lawmakers decided to pass a feel good law to make it appear to the general public that they are doing something about a 1 in a million accident.
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WAVP375



Joined: 28 Oct 2006
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Location: Charlotte, NC

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:34 am    Post subject:  

Feel good legislation - losing touch with reality.
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Malaki86



Joined: 28 Aug 2004
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Location: West Virginia

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:57 pm    Post subject:  

I don't think PA could force a driver to clear the snow/ice from the top of their trailer. The reason, simple, the height. Because of the height of the trailer, OSHA requires safety restraints, as well as a chain around the edge to prevent you from falling.
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Sgt_D



Joined: 13 May 2006
Posts: 53
Location: Texas

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:40 am    Post subject:  

just hop in and out of New Jersey, they have 13'6" overpasses that will clean that off for you

Rick
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mapleleaf_1



Joined: 13 Nov 2006
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:06 am    Post subject:  

Good one Sgt_D :lol:
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Shawnee



Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Posts: 246
Location: Canada

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:51 am    Post subject:  

It has always been a law up here, One company I worked for had a device for removing snow, when you drove out the gate it would scrap the snow and ice off the trailer
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Part Time Dweller



Joined: 06 Jan 2007
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Location: Western Chicago Suburb, IL

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:32 am    Post subject:  

Malaki86 wrote: I don't think PA could force a driver to clear the snow/ice from the top of their trailer. The reason, simple, the height. Because of the height of the trailer, OSHA requires safety restraints, as well as a chain around the edge to prevent you from falling.

Again they aren't telling you to climb up and clean the roof off, they are just saying if ice/snow flys off your trailer, you will get a ticket. Unless every shipper/ receiver with drop lots and every terminal installs a roof scraper it is a moot point.
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Malaki86



Joined: 28 Aug 2004
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Location: West Virginia

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:18 am    Post subject:  

And because a driver can't be expected to climb on top of the trailer, i have a feeling that any lawyer worth anything would be able to get that ticket dropped.

That'd be the same as writing tickets to someone because for going too slow in a posted area because the truck is governed below that speed.
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