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cdltpx · Joined: 30 Sep 2005 Posts: 69 Location: 70769

Rev.Vassago wrote: The last thing that you should be doing if someone is pulling out in front of you is playing with a spotlight.The opinions expressed by the author should be yours as well, if you knew what was good for you. They secretly represent the views of CAD or of the other members of CAD.

REV opinion cannot be forced upon another you are not GOD ever since the Bush administration began there has been an attempt to force folks that are not to the right politically to be quiet this is not the American way that is Nazi Germany way. As long as I have the promise of liberty I will speak my mind politely and there are many times where I see the opposed point of view causing me to understand more in essence to be corrected. You can disagree without being disagreeable I don’t fall for the bait of a confrontation in anger. If you are offended in a difference of opinion too bad you need to cultivate a milder spirit.
I hate it that we are weighted down in litigation I want that to change but the other way is violence and I hate that too all of us can’t be right or correct all the time and we can’t all be wrong as long as the courts are hearing arguments we are not in the streets involved in civil war. If the moderator removes me because of expressing an opinion that is non-offensive amen enjoy. You can all sit around the computer saying hooray for our side and be voted out of every political office in the land or you can work together. Bullying others because you have a responsibility of moderator is not what chat rooms are set up for we are to exchange ideas in this room it is transportation ideas that is my goal to converse about things we drivers need to do.

coastie · Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 434 Location: Elberton, Ga

I drove one truck with these spot lights on it. Yes it was useful for what it was intended for. Looking for something. But to use it in a warning level, as you discribled, No. Poor choice. Why? Many people would not know what your doing. Air Horn, they can hear, Light, well they may not see it. Yes you read right. if they are looking in the other direction they will not see it. Horn they will, and it does not take any longer then having to reach Turn on the spot light the aim it. Wasiting time that way. Just pull you air horn cable.

Twilight Flyer · Joined: 13 Nov 2002 Posts: 5793

Quote: Quote: The opinions expressed by the author should be yours as well, if you knew what was good for you. They secretly represent the views of CAD or of the other members of CAD.

REV opinion cannot be forced upon another you are not GOD ever since the Bush administration began there has been an attempt to force folks that are not to the right politically to be quiet this is not the American way that is Nazi Germany way............

Come on...Rev's signature is tongue-in-cheek. It's obvious so don't take things so seriously. :roll:

As far as banning you, why would that happen? I happen to disagree with your use of the light and I'd be willing to bet that I'm not the only one. As several people have stated (myself included), you might know why you are waving it in the air, but most other people do not. And getting on your CB and telling people you are doing it for a brake check isn't going to help the majority, since they are in 4-wheelers and do not have CB's.

I would suggest once again contacting an attorney and asking what your liability is. You might also contact an LEO and ask them, too. Right or wrong, we are in a sue-happy society and if you get sued for waving your light in the air and causing an accident, the smart money is going to be on you losing the lawsuit. Just ain't worth it.

cdltpx · Joined: 30 Sep 2005 Posts: 69 Location: 70769

That is just what they say when they are doing something that is banned they claim we were just kidding but the wording is such to intimidate and that is wrong at least here you are allowed enough space to fully explain your intentions and my intentions are benign. You want to see some humongous fines and judicious rulings see your eeoc officer within your company and you will get an education on jokes and fun and the wording of statements. I believe I have fully explained the reason for the thread and will devote my time to other pending task. Got to wash the dishes.

Moderator the reason I feel that the use of a spot light to alert others by pointing upward is not an issue is the simple fact that they use generator powered lights that can be seen for 10 miles away to tell all that a big event or a new business is open. There are distractions all over like in Atlanta there is a place where a huge Jumbo jet will cross over traffic” if that isn’t a distraction what is “do you believe that they will sue the Delta corporation for that? The fact is anyone can sue anyone for anything the question is will they? Personal injury attorneys usually work on contingency basis and will not waste their time on a case that they feel they can’t win. Because of my driving style I feel secure that the issue will never see a courtroom we are talking about 3x use in that manner in a 7 month period while I flash the light up ward I look in the rear view mirror to see if the traffic is slowing then as soon as I see a reaction I stop with the light.

You are probably use to driving with someone on the side of you at all times I really don’t drive that way if a truck is passing me I slow if our speeds are comparable if a car tries to stay to my LHS (what I call a but sniffer) and I slow and they slow I speed up they speed up if it goes on too long I will take the next exit and re-enter the interstate don’t believe me ask Charlie Niell he will attest to that fact. He thinks I can be too safe I disagree because money doesn’t constitute my speed when he witnessed me exiting because of (a but sniffer) he was angry at the loss of time. He also witnessed that same vehicle tie up with a PU truck towing a boat. While we were pumping back up in the distance we could see what looked like an explosion of dirt and dust and sure enough she had caused a collision by unsafe driving habits the boat puller probably had sped up to get rid of her and the road was too bumpy and the collision occurred rolling the boat and truck.

Trucks passing one another with comparable speeds is dangerous the slower truck should decide to slow to allow the faster truck to go by freeing the interstate. Try not to frustrate the 4 wheelers this is when they will do stupid things when they feel the trucks are trying to hold them back. If a motorists wants to fly down the interstate in excess of 70 mph let him go that is what we call bear bait those fools keep the bears busy so we can breeze on by.

You see my handle on here cdltpx well that is what I have maintained since 1994 class a cdl t p x .I have driven tour bus, school bus, doubles, tank, flat bed, dry van, reefer, hauled explosives, radio active, fuel, cryogenics, no tickets or accidents the moving violations I have gotten were all either on 2 wheels or 4. It has been 10 years since my last violation to maintain a record like this you have to walk your walk you don’t act aggressively ever. :rock: Rock on

Twilight Flyer · Joined: 13 Nov 2002 Posts: 5793

Quote: The fact is anyone can sue anyone for anything

Yep.

Quote: the question is will they?

Yep.

Good luck.

Rev.Vassago · Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:37 pm Post subject:

Twilight Flyer wrote: Quote: The fact is anyone can sue anyone for anything

Yep.

Quote: the question is will they?

Yep.

Good luck.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Good one. End of thread.

bob h · Joined: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 675 Location: Nb

quote="cdltpx"]I now work for logex we have these lights and I use them all the time. The light is right there when you need it just a turn of the wrist and you have another tool for improved sight and communication.
Train yourself to use them because they are faster than any horn if you have a four wheeler try to pull in front of you hit them with light fast and first they will stop if they want to live.
One night I used it to stop a large doe in her tracks she was heading right in front of the truck.
If there is a brake check I point the light skyward and wave it left and right to tell other motorists we have a hazardous situation here I do this first then broadcast a channel 19 brake check remember light is the fastest medium faster than electricity,sound ,radio waves you name it.

yes, light is fast......... but getting that light focused in on a moving target is NOT gonna happen too quickly IMO...

... i can flash my high beams or pull air (or push electric) horn much quicker

Hauling hazmat we stop at RR Xing I spot the RRX sign and then shine it skyward this is visible for a mile or more communicating effectively.

you must be speaking the same language to "communicate"

... do you think that person driving by in their car understands why you are "spot-lighting" them??? some individuals might take it as a rude, antagonising gesture, or that you just got a new toy.... and are playing. some individuals have road rage... hmmmmm

At truck stops you use it to show your path you wish to take avoiding collisions with trucks flying through, they will see this and slow it down well in advance of a close call.[/quote]

COMIN' THROUGH....... CLEAR THE WAY!

cdltpx · Joined: 30 Sep 2005 Posts: 69 Location: 70769

Smith system says.
Driving is a complex task that requires drivers to deal with constantly changing variables skillfully and consistently. Remaining collision free, year after year, has much more to do with skill than luck.

A skill is an ability, usually learned and acquired through training, to perform actions which achieve a desired outcome.
Luck can be defined as a chance happening, or as that which happens beyond a person's control

Bullets hit their target long before the victum can hear the sound. Lightening :idea: is seen long before you hear the thunder........ :!:
:idea: .................................................... :!:
Speed of light
:idea: In metric units, c is exactly 299,792,458 metres per second

Speed of sound :!:
At sea level, at a temperature of 21 °C (70 °F) and under normal atmospheric conditions, the speed of sound is 344 m/s (770 mph or 1238 km/h).

Light is 871,489.7035 Times faster than sound. The sound is on or off you can direct the light. I have reached for the air horn in the past and with adrenelin flowing ripped the cable off of the air valve.

In this case I was traveling 35 mph as the car approached the intersection. The car not intending to stop at the stop sign expecting no traffic due to the late hour and the remoteness of the area. Can you blame him he has made same turn at same time every day never encountered opposition so he wishes to proceed through the intersection as usual and make a right hand turn instinctively he looks right first about this time I hit him with the spot light it is at this time he realises the light shadow and applies the brake before he can make it through the intersection and before he looks to his left where I am approaching the intersection. When you see such a light generated from that heigth or shadow from that light the first thing you think it is a cop so the initial response is one of submission/identification rather than one of a challenge/pull out.

Evedently he cared and valued his life he applied brakes and stopped just shy of a collision. After cleaning out his draws if he wants to prodceed with road rage it is his option. He apparantly realized he cheated death or was taunting death and hopefully will in the future take more percautions.

Traffic crashes come at an enormous cost to society, Mineta noted. NHTSA estimates show that highway crashes cost society $230.6 billion a year, about $820 per person.
:mrgreen: Many of the safety problems may date back to as early as 1955 with the birth of the interstate system and the integration into the system of previously constructedhighways that were designed for maximum speed limits of 60 mph, the NTSB said.

This quote :mrgreen: proves the interstates need more warning something faster read the article it said the motor coach driver needed time. I use light the fastest medium known to man.

http://www.ntsb.gov/events/journalist/lessons/LL_speeds_over_60mph.txt

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