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Papa Rick
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Location: North Alabama
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| Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 9:43 pm Post subject: Log Trucks using different Logs |
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I just started hauling logs in Oct of this year. Since then I have not found anyone that uses a log book, but goes by a time sheet. We drive in 3 states home is AL, drive in GA and TN.
Has anyone heard of this? I have asked if you didn't need a log book to cross state lines, and was told no because Logging is exempt because it comes out of the woods in the natural state and is not changed or processed until you unload it.
Longest haul one way is 120 miles, starts in AL, then GA and TN, and return. |
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slider64683
Joined: 21 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 9:53 pm Post subject: log book |
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according to FTC (Federal Transportation Commision) and log book is only required when working outside of a 150 air mile radius of the base termanial.
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slider64683
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| Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 9:54 pm Post subject: log book |
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according to FTC (Federal Transportation Commision) and log book is only required when working outside of a 150 air mile radius of the base termanial.
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nrvsreck
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Location: Sulphur Springs, TX
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| Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes, as far as I understand it, it's a 150-mile air radius. Has nothing to do with crossing state lines. If the longest run in 120 miles, you got nothing to worry about. |
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yoopr
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| Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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I've hauled logs up here and if you're within the radius you don't have to log it unless you're crossing a state line.
keep a sheet of your hours though. |
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Papa Rick
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| Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Hey I really appreciate the info.
Now for another question, do you get the hour sheets from your home state, and if so, do you have to send them back to them every so often. |
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Papa Rick
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| Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Can anyone tell me where is a good place to get the FMCSR book, both in pocket size and I have read somewhere you can get it in a notebook edition for your office? |
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GMAN
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Location: Tennessee
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 8:10 am Post subject: |
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| Most truck stops sell the pocket size handbooks as well as log books. There is a Pilot not too far from you, I believe. They should have them. And I have seen people ticketed for crossing state lines and not logging, even though they were within the 150 mile radius. It is best to check the rule book for yourself. |
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yoopr
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:34 am Post subject: |
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Papa Rick wrote: Hey I really appreciate the info.
Now for another question, do you get the hour sheets from your home state, and if so, do you have to send them back to them every so often.
We just used a sheet with date-Where you picked up the Logs-What city and Paper Mill you were going to and the time you started the day and when you finished for that day.
When running intra-state you might want to check your states laws. Your regs might be different. |
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Sealord
Joined: 20 Jun 2005
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Location: Florida
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:50 pm Post subject: Hauling Logs |
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| Could cut logs be considered an agricultural product therefore nothing's required other than a time sheet? BOL |
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Jackrabbit379
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Location: Wichita Falls,Tx
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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| How bout,sawing logs? :shock: :P |
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Sealord
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Location: Florida
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:53 pm Post subject: Kenworth Hauling Hogs? |
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| Coulda been! Do I hear CW McCall? BOL |
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yoopr
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: Hauling Logs |
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Sealord wrote: Could cut logs be considered an agricultural product therefore nothing's required other than a time sheet? BOL
Up here Log trucks are plated as Farm Vehicle.
Cut logs would be considered Lumber and have to be considered Commercial. |
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Dawn
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Location: Indianapolis, In
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: Log Trucks using different Logs |
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Papa Rick wrote: I just started hauling logs in Oct of this year. Since then I have not found anyone that uses a log book, but goes by a time sheet. We drive in 3 states home is AL, drive in GA and TN.
Has anyone heard of this? I have asked if you didn't need a log book to cross state lines, and was told no because Logging is exempt because it comes out of the woods in the natural state and is not changed or processed until you unload it.
Longest haul one way is 120 miles, starts in AL, then GA and TN, and return.
The 150 miles is only for NON-CDL drivers: So if you do not need a CDL to haul the logs then yes it is 150 mile radius. If you need a CDL to haul logs then if you go outside 100 mile radius you will need to fill out log sheets.
Drivers of property-carrying CMVs which do not require a Commercial Driver's License for operation and who operate within a 150 air-mile radius of their normal work reporting location:
May drive a maximum of 11 hours after coming on duty following 10 or more consecutive hours off duty.
Are not required to keep records-of-duty status (RODS).
May not drive after the 14th hour after coming on duty 5 days a week or after the 16th hour after coming on duty 2 days a week.
Employer must:
Maintain and retain accurate time records for a period of 6 months showing the time the duty period began, ended, and total hours on duty each day in place of RODS. |
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yoopr
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't know why you repeat answers already given other than your copy and paste. |
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