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Failed drug test, am I done?
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dumptrucker



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 12

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:53 pm    Post subject: Failed drug test, am I done?  

Last week, I failed a random drug screen for the first time in my life!I have a Class B Dr. Lic. and drove a dump truck.I have always wanted to go class A OTR, but now I'm afraid I'll never have that chance. What can I do to exonerate myself? I was at a friend's house and they gave me some loaded brownies. They thought that was really funny until I told them I could go to prison if I got into an accident and tested positive for drugs. They have given me their word that they will testify on my behalf that I had no knowledge whatsoever that I was ingesting marijuana , and I did pass a random screen in Sept. How can I clear my name with DAC, not to mention trucking lines?
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Uturn2001



Joined: 10 Jan 2005
Posts: 4623
Location: East Central IL between the corn and the beans

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:10 pm    Post subject:  

You are going to have to go through a SAPS program with a liscenced SAPS counslor. After that you are looking forwards to about 3 years or so of hearing a lot of no's when you are applying for jobs and when you do get hired you can fully expect to take drug tests every time you turn around for a year or two.


I have found if you hang out in a dirt filled lot it is very difficult to keep the dirt off of you.

If you hang around people who do drugs then it is very hard for you to not get that filth on you.

Sounds like to me you need to find a better class of loser to be friends with.
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dumptrucker



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 12

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:21 pm    Post subject:  

Point well taken. I had not seen these "friends" for about 2 yr.s, though, and don't plan on going back. I have always been clean and plan to keep it that way, so lots of screens don't worry me. Being given the opportunity to drive for a living does. How can I get a list of approved SASP's?
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Uturn2001



Joined: 10 Jan 2005
Posts: 4623
Location: East Central IL between the corn and the beans

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:55 pm    Post subject:  

I would suggest contacting your local hosptial, DMV, or substance abuse program for information.
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Rev.Vassago



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 5402
Location: Green Bay, WI

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:01 am    Post subject:  

Lack of knowledge about what you ingested is no excuse in the eyes of the DOT. If you went to a concert, and got a contact high, you could get nabbed.
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Justruckin



Joined: 02 Dec 2006
Posts: 179
Location: SE Michigan

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:28 am    Post subject:  

Good luck man. Better think of going to school for something else. A drug pop is hard to get around, worse then a DUI.

When I had drivers, the drug screen was always the clincher. The minute a guy asked if I tested, I knew he was dirty. And yes, I tested. It is just to risky to hire a person with such a mark on their record. And it already is near impossible to even find good quality drivers out here. It is drugs, tickets or just a piss poor attitude regarding work, most don't want to. Ain't nothing free out here, and a little personal responsibility will take you a long way. As I am sure you are now finding out.

And even if you could go through a drug program, you will more then likely find yourself working for the worst of companies.

And it is not so much the company, its the insurance companies that will stop your future employment. They are god out here, they say who we can and cannot hire.

And like someone else said, find a different bunch of losers to hang with.
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Kaji



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 37
Location: Under the bar

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:48 am    Post subject:  

So what exactly does failing one drug test have anything to do with finding a quality driver?

In my experience, there is no distinction. Did you guys catch that history channel special on when and why certain drugs were outlawed? I found the section dealing with cocaine hilarious. Drug enraged negroes indeed, lol.
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ken_o



Joined: 06 Nov 2005
Posts: 667

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:17 am    Post subject:  

ok kaji heres your answer because drugs impair judgment and motor skills thus the no drug policy.
do you understand this?
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Rev.Vassago



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 5402
Location: Green Bay, WI

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:53 am    Post subject:  

Kaji wrote: So what exactly does failing one drug test have anything to do with finding a quality driver?

It has EVERYTHING to do with it. There is no place for illegal drugs in trucking - on or off the job.

But then again, I don't think there is any place for alcohol in the industry either - on or off the job (unless a large period of time is passing before the driver goes on the job again).
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Sealord



Joined: 20 Jun 2005
Posts: 1710
Location: Florida

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:22 am    Post subject: Dumptrucker  

Didn't the safety director for the company you work for tell you what you had to do as far as rehab? DAC is now USIS and you may want to get a copy of your record from them. Last I knew their web addy is usis.com and if you're unemployed, you get the record copy free. BOL
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dumptrucker



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 12

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:23 pm    Post subject:  

Thank you all for your replies. I know that alot of people may read what I have described as a likely story, but sometimes really rotten luck can result in being an innocent victim of a sub-moronic prank. The truth is, I am a very responsible driver, with my goal each day being to deliver my load with NO INCIDENTS! I dont speed just to make an extra $20.00/day. I am always aware of my surroundings (where other vehicles are) and have avoided NUMEROUS accidents with such awareness. I am also very courteous to semis, always flashing my lights to let them know they are clear, even when I havent got a "thank you" flash in return from the last 20 trucks. I love to give up my lane to let a semi merge. This lets others know that we are all part of the same fraternity, makin' a livin' on the road, and we all have to share it. Always, I recieve a thank you for that one! I am determined to jump thru whatever hoops I have to because that will PROVE that I have a passion for driving. Lets face it, I'm going to have to go through a heckuva lot to get my chance now, whereas anyone else can just walk into PAM, Werner, Swift, ect., sign up, and drive. I would also hope that any would-be employers might take this into account. The truth is, and everyone on here will be rightly incensed to hear, that there is another option. I know of several small truck lines, and have spoken to the owners explaining my situation, that really DONT CARE about a failed drug test. All they care about is; Can you drive this truck? Can you handle being gone for 2-3 months? Great! Get in and go. To my credit, I'm determined not to drive for such fly-by night operators. What happens if I break down? How quickly will they get there? What kind of bucket of bolts am I going to be driving, anyway? Lots of other concerns. Anyway, here's something for you guys to consider. I'm facing a lengthy and costly process just to get where you guys already are. Driving for a reputable company that pays decent. Try to think about that the next time your dispatcher is giving you a hard way to go, or you have to wait for a load,or you're stuck in traffic. I am truly hoping to be right there also, only I have to pay a big price just for the privilege! Driving gets in your blood, I love it, and I'll be back on the road come hell or high water. If anyone out there can think of anything that might help me, let me know. KEEP ON TRUCKIN' MAKE'EM HOLLAR TO MAKE A DOLLAR!
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jmaellis



Joined: 21 Jan 2006
Posts: 14

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:46 am    Post subject: Re: Failed drug test, am I done?  

dumptrucker wrote: Last week, I failed a random drug screen for the first time in my life!

I was at a friend's house and they gave me some loaded brownies.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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got mud?



Joined: 27 May 2006
Posts: 243

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Failed drug test, am I done?  

dumptrucker wrote: Last week, I failed a random drug screen for the first time in my life!I have a Class B Dr. Lic. and drove a dump truck.I have always wanted to go class A OTR, but now I'm afraid I'll never have that chance. What can I do to exonerate myself? I was at a friend's house and they gave me some loaded brownies. They thought that was really funny until I told them I could go to prison if I got into an accident and tested positive for drugs. They have given me their word that they will testify on my behalf that I had no knowledge whatsoever that I was ingesting marijuana , and I did pass a random screen in Sept. How can I clear my name with DAC, not to mention trucking lines?


start with the truth. nobody buys the loaded brownie bit. you mean to tell me you had no idea. first of all if you know your friends use and they offer you anything.... any future employer will see through that. come clean get clean then try to fix your record.
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Fozzy



Joined: 02 Sep 2005
Posts: 2460

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:22 pm    Post subject:  

If this is what you say it is and these people who are your "friends" set you up for this..THEY ought to pay EVERY cent of this problem! If they do not (and of course you can prove this) sue them for the costs of all this trouble and the loss of your lively hood and loss of your job in civil court and try and recoup some of the losses.

Tell me these a**holes are still not considered "friends"? :roll:
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kreeper01



Joined: 09 Aug 2003
Posts: 514
Location: East Central illinois

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:34 pm    Post subject:  

Drugs are bad enough just getting a contact high. It'll probably be better if you drank alcohol instead when you are at home on the weekends or when you have a 34 hour restart.

As Rev said, hang around a bunch of losers. Those bunch of losers should only drink alcohol and legal cigarettes like Marlboro.
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