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"This Vehicle Stops at Railroad Crossings"
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chapchap70



Joined: 15 Mar 2006
Posts: 138
Location: Long Island, NY

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 9:41 am    Post subject: "This Vehicle Stops at Railroad Crossings"  

I thought the decal was required on fuel oil trucks. When I started my new job last week delivering oil, I was surprised that the trucks didn't have them.

The FMCSA seems contradictory on this question as 398.4 contradicts with 392.10.

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.asp?section=392.10


I think 392.10 applies and the decals are not required. 398.4 deals with transportation of migrant workers and is a hodgepodge of regulations taken from other parts of the FMCSA. It seems strange that the decal would be required to protect migrant workers from rear end collisions but not for children riding on school buses.

398.4 (Transportation of Migrant Workers)

Quote: (q) Railroad grade crossings; stopping required; sign on rear of vehicle. Every motor vehicle shall, upon approaching any railroad grade crossing, make a full stop not more than 50 feet, nor less than 15 feet from the nearest rail of such railroad grade crossing, and shall not proceed until due caution has been taken to ascertain that the course is clear; except that a full stop need not be made at:

(q)(1) A street car crossing within a business or residence district of a municipality;

(q)(2) A railroad grade crossing where a police officer or a traffic control signal (not a railroad flashing signal) directs traffic to proceed;

(q)(3) An abandoned or exempted grade crossing which is clearly marked as such by or with the consent of the proper state authority, when such marking can be read from the driver's position.

All such motor vehicles shall display a sign on the rear reading, "This Vehicle Stops at Railroad Crossings."

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sinclac



Joined: 26 Dec 2004
Posts: 142
Location: Sacramento, CA

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:05 am    Post subject:  

I drive fuel here and we don't have them here.
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chapchap70



Joined: 15 Mar 2006
Posts: 138
Location: Long Island, NY

Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:44 pm    Post subject:  

I thought it was law because I didn't think companies would even spend $5.00 a decal per truck if they didn't have to. I can't find anything about it in local law either.
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Fredog



Joined: 23 Apr 2005
Posts: 2129
Location: North Georgia

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 6:55 pm    Post subject:  

chapchap70 wrote: I thought it was law because I didn't think companies would even spend $5.00 a decal per truck if they didn't have to. I can't find anything about it in local law either.

we have 25 hazmat tankers and they dont have them
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Myth_Buster



Joined: 20 Jul 2006
Posts: 102
Location: Dark Side of The Moon

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 7:06 pm    Post subject:  

It may have to do with the fact most people know school buses stop at RR crossings and people may not be aware that migrant buses are supposed to stop.

IMHO.

Be safe.
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chapchap70



Joined: 15 Mar 2006
Posts: 138
Location: Long Island, NY

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 3:19 pm    Post subject:  

What does a "Migrant Bus" look like anyway? :lol: :lol:
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Fredog



Joined: 23 Apr 2005
Posts: 2129
Location: North Georgia

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 3:28 pm    Post subject:  

chapchap70 wrote: What does a "Migrant Bus" look like anyway? :lol: :lol:

a 25 year old school bus with the letters painted over and floppy fenders and bald tires that pulls out in front of you and attains a top speed of 45 miles per hour
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Birken Vogt



Joined: 29 Nov 2006
Posts: 102

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:26 pm    Post subject:  

Fredog wrote: a 25 year old school bus with the letters painted over and floppy fenders and bald tires that pulls out in front of you and attains a top speed of 45 miles per hour

LOL, second time tonight I nearly fell out of my chair laughing, good one

Birken
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