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Mackman · Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 2251 Location: Concordville PA

I drive local less then 150 air miles. I do not do a log book the other day i worked 15.5hrs and drove 384 miles. What are the max hours i can work in a day being local with no log book. Dawn keep your 2cents to your self on this.

Double R · Joined: 11 Sep 2005 Posts: 815 Location: Pittsburgh, PA

Mackman wrote: I drive local less then 150 air miles. I do not do a log book the other day i worked 15.5hrs and drove 384 miles. What are the max hours i can work in a day being local with no log book. Dawn keep your 2cents to your self on this.

First, you need a log book when you exceed 100 Air Miles from start/return point(so I am told by safety). You can drive in circles all day and do 400 miles as long as you do not leave the 100 Air Mile radius.

As for the hours:
A) YOU CANNOT EXCEED 12 HOURS IN A EXEMPT BOOK. AFTER 12 HOURS YOU NEED TO FILL OUT A LOG FOR THAT DAY.
B) 15.5. As long as you did not drive past 11 hours, returned to the point of which you started(which I assume you did), have not used the 16 hour exemption in last 7 days or since last restart, you are o.k. Just need to fill out a long for that day.

I drive local also and use a exempt book. I DO NOT work past 12 hours(my runs are short :D ) and do not exceed 100 Air Miles from the warehouse.

Hope that helps :D

Mackman · Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 2251 Location: Concordville PA

it does help so i do need a log book SOB. I never returned to the point i started. I drive a tanker hauling wastewater so i go around to diff. places all day long to get loaded.

Rev.Vassago · Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 5197 Location: Green Bay, WI

The FMCSA rules only apply if you travel interstate - if you travel intrastate, then the state rules apply regarding HOS.

Mackman · Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 2251 Location: Concordville PA

well i will have to follow FMCSA rules. We go to PA NJ DE MD NY.

Double R · Joined: 11 Sep 2005 Posts: 815 Location: Pittsburgh, PA

Mackman wrote: it does help so i do need a log book SOB. I never returned to the point i started. I drive a tanker hauling wastewater so i go around to diff. places all day long to get loaded.

My mistake. I meant when you start to when you finish point of return. :D
Sorry

Quote: The FMCSA rules only apply if you travel interstate - if you travel intrastate, then the state rules apply regarding HOS.

Good point. I was assuming that he crosses some state lines at times.

chicago1010 · Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 16

Mackman wrote:
it does help so i do need a log book SOB. I never returned to the point i started. I drive a tanker hauling wastewater so i go around to diff. places all day long to get loaded.

My mistake. I meant when you start to when you finish point of return. Very Happy
Sorry

Quote:
The FMCSA rules only apply if you travel interstate - if you travel intrastate, then the state rules apply regarding HOS.

Quote: Good point. I was assuming that he crosses some state lines at times.
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I don't want to argue, but if I interpret rule 390.5 correctly under interstate commerce #3 if freight originates or terminates in another state even thou you only move it within your own state it is still considered interstate. I just thought I would throw in my 2cents.

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