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DoneDeal
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| Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 9:49 pm Post subject: Who has the Cool Load? |
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Is there a "cool club" in what load you haul? When I am talking to O&O's about financing, is there a pecking order in what you haul/carry?
What type of load & Go person should I look out for, and what makes someone "more stable" in this industry. (as far as trucking) :) |
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tfmotors
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Location: Oregon
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| Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 9:55 pm Post subject: Re: Who has the Cool Load? |
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DoneDeal wrote: Is there a "cool club" in what load you haul? When I am talking to O&O's about financing, is there a pecking order in what you haul/carry?
What type of load & Go person should I look out for, and what makes someone "more stable" in this industry. (as far as trucking) :)
I am sorry you will have to ask the Rev. about being able to join the " Cool Club ". |
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DoneDeal
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| Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Ah, come on.....poutingflippinghair...I want to join! You mean it is a secret, does Burt know? |
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Teal 95 KW
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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Location: Texas
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| Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, us Bedbuggers are known around the industry as "badasses". There's 3 of us here I can think of, myself, BanditsCousin and the Rev. We keep to ourselves and unless one of them thar general freight haulers screws up, we have no need to speak to 'em ;) |
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terrylamar
Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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Location: Austin, TX
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| Until recently I attended gunshow every weekend. I transported my own inventory. Usually, about 75 AR 15s, a few Barrett .50 BMGs, tacticool accessories such as EOTech, Aimpoint, BetaMag and many others. If anyone can top that, give it a shot. Pun intended. :lol: |
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solo379
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| Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:16 pm Post subject: Re: Who has the Cool Load? |
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DoneDeal wrote: and what makes someone "more stable" in this industry. (as far as trucking) :)
The same, like in any other business;-ability to use a calculator, and a bit of common sense! :P |
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Rev.Vassago
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
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Location: The other side of the coin
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| Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:17 pm Post subject: Re: Who has the Cool Load? |
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DoneDeal wrote: Is there a "cool club" in what load you haul? When I am talking to O&O's about financing, is there a pecking order in what you haul/carry?
What type of load & Go person should I look out for, and what makes someone "more stable" in this industry. (as far as trucking) :)
If I am understanding your question correctly, you are asking what is considered the "better" O/O trades?
If that is the question, the answer is simple - do something everyone else isn't. O/O's who are hauling specialized items, such as OS/OD, HHG, enclosed trailer autos, etc. generally make more money than someone pulling a van trailer bumping a dock. Generally the reason they make more is because they are doing more - more time in the trailer, more liability for the load, more permits to haul the load.
If you can find something that everyone else isn't doing, then you will have something that is more in demand from those who need it. Van drivers can be found everywhere. Specialized haulers can't.
This is one of the reasons that HHG drivers make great money in the summer, and less in the winter. HHG is in high demand in the summer, and less so in the winter. It all comes down to supply and demand. Supply a trade that is in high demand, and the money will follow. Supply a trade that is in low demand, and you will starve. |
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Teal 95 KW
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| Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Rev....you feeling alright? I specifically remember when we were standing there looking at your truck in Chicago that you DO NOT LIKE LIGHTS...now you've got "chasers" going on. Care to explain? |
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Rev.Vassago
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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Teal 95 KW wrote: Rev....you feeling alright? I specifically remember when we were standing there looking at your truck in Chicago that you DO NOT LIKE LIGHTS...now you've got "chasers" going on. Care to explain?
Dawn told me that the DOT will let me out of vehicle homicide charges if I have more lights. |
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Teal 95 KW
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| Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Well that makes sense. I mean, if you're well lit and someone still gets run over by your truck...obviously it was their fault b/c you went out of your way to make your truck visible...DUH. There is no excuse for being hit by a rolling christmas tree. |
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solo379
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| Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:26 pm Post subject: Re: Who has the Cool Load? |
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Rev.Vassago wrote: Generally the reason they make more is because they are doing more - more time in the trailer, more liability for the load, more permits to haul the load.
It all comes down to supply and demand. Supply a trade that is in high demand, and the money will follow. Supply a trade that is in low demand, and you will starve.
Well, i agree with your first statment, but for one HHG load there is a 100 van loads, so demand, is kinda questionable... :P |
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Rev.Vassago
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| Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:30 pm Post subject: Re: Who has the Cool Load? |
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solo379 wrote: Rev.Vassago wrote: Generally the reason they make more is because they are doing more - more time in the trailer, more liability for the load, more permits to haul the load.
It all comes down to supply and demand. Supply a trade that is in high demand, and the money will follow. Supply a trade that is in low demand, and you will starve.
Well, i agree with your first statment, but for one HHG load there is a 100 van loads, so demand, is kinda questionable... :P
There's one problem with that logic:
For every one HHG load, there is probably 1 HHG driver (in the summer at least).
For every 1 van load, there are probably 5 van drivers.
The rates in HHG reflect this. |
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brian
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| I dont see the big deal with HHG, I mean the moneys good but how much do you pay your movers and what not, dealing with neighborhood driving and dealing with customers over a scratch here or there, then ya got the slow season and all that. |
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Teal 95 KW
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I pay my labor $12.00 an hour. I inventory/disassemble/pad/load my own truck. My labor just runs everything out to me. I am cheap on labor and do alot of loading/unloading myself. Infact, I have a crew of 3 guys who work with me, when I'm up in Colorado, and 2 guys who work for me down here in Texas. I may load my wagon, with 20k lbs for instance..figure I have about $300.00 in labor in that.
I've been doing two turns a month...from my house in Texas to Denver, and back...do that twice a month, and my smallest settlement so far (bi-weekly pay schedule) has been $4,300.00 That's after fuel, labor, and insurance..all pulls I made against the load etc. I have a paid for truck, and I don't run that hard. During the summer I could knock down $20k a month. It has taken me a year and a half to put 99k miles on my truck. |
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BanditsCousin
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Location: Chicago, IL
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See, I think different than Teal. I pay my labor great when they deserve it, and I have quality labor waiting for me when I get back to the town.
Example, my Dad's longtime helper in Los Angeles doesn't come out for less than $120, but is worth every penny. Thats right, $120/mini. :wink:
My Phoenix guys charge me $140 each for 5,000 lbs and the 2 of them are at my motel ON TIME and can get me back to the motel bar by 11:30am in summer Pheonix heat.
I hate being on the job, I like to get loaded and go. I unload a little slower.
HHG is killer money, but theres different angles and tricks. For instance, positioning your truck in a certain metropolitan area at the end of the month/beginning of the month will ensure good (paying) tonnage out. Your dispatcher and agent play a role in your winter activity as well :wink: Thats why I'm shopping around right now 8) |
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