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Doogle
Joined: 18 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:46 pm Post subject: Getting hours back |
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How do I get hours back on my logbook after the 8th day. I need a good example of how to calculate that on my log. I am having trouble understanding how to do this. Any help would be appreciated.
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Uturn2001
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| Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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You should be using the recap found on the inside cover of your log book. It makes it a lot easier.
At the end of today add up all hours worked from today back 8 days. Subtract from 70 and that will give you the hours available for tomorrow.
The 9th day back will be the amount of hours you will gain for tomorrow when added to any hours left over at the end of today.
If you set for 34 consecutive hours without doing any kind of work then you can get your entire 70 hours back. |
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Jackrabbit379
Joined: 22 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah,just as Uturn said,you can start over on your hours when you are off duty for a consecutive 34 hours. |
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Dawn
Joined: 31 Oct 2006
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Location: Indianapolis, In
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| Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:22 pm Post subject: I can help you the best I can |
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Give me your hours worked lines 3&4 total. for the dates below
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
Tell me what you have done so far today also lines 3 & 4.
Which rule are you under the 60/7 day or the 70/8 day? |
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Dawn
Joined: 31 Oct 2006
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Location: Indianapolis, In
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| Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:30 pm Post subject: If you are doing the re-cap on your log sheet and it has 1-7 |
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Re-cap on the log sheet do this
Line 1 this is your hours worked on the 11th
Line 2 this is your hours worked on the 12th
Line 3 this is your hours worked on the 13th
Line 4 this is your hours worked on the 14th
Line 5 this is your hours worked on the 15th
Line 6 this is your hours worked on the 16th
Line 7 this is your hours worked on the 17th
Box 1 Total lines 1-7 up and enter the answer
Box 2 Take box # 1 and subtract it from 70 and enter the answer in box 2
Box 3 This is filled out at the end of the day for today.
The re-cap should be filled out before you start driving every day. The 8th day tells you how many hours you have available so you don't go over your 70 hours
34-hour restart: Pretty simple. 34 hours off between lines 1 & 2 and you will have 0's on lines 1-7. Box 1 0 Box 2 70! |
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Dawn
Joined: 31 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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Oh I forgot to add, every night at midnight you gain whats on line #1.
So if I had 10.5 on line 1 of that re-cap, when midnight hits I know I will have 10.5 hours @ LEAST to "WORK" tomorrow. Plus any I did not use out of my hours available today.
RE-cap on the log sheet is the easiest I have found, but it is all on what you pick up the easiest! :lol: |
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yoopr
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| Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Just do like Uturn said-keep your recap current |
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Doogle
Joined: 18 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: If you are doing the re-cap on your log sheet and it has |
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If you gain hours back, how do you calculate that on the recap to make it look legal. I need an example. I am trying to figure this out for my husband, he is stuck in Texas. Let me know as soon as you can.
Dawn wrote: Re-cap on the log sheet do this
Line 1 this is your hours worked on the 11th
Line 2 this is your hours worked on the 12th
Line 3 this is your hours worked on the 13th
Line 4 this is your hours worked on the 14th
Line 5 this is your hours worked on the 15th
Line 6 this is your hours worked on the 16th
Line 7 this is your hours worked on the 17th
Box 1 Total lines 1-7 up and enter the answer
Box 2 Take box # 1 and subtract it from 70 and enter the answer in box 2
Box 3 This is filled out at the end of the day for today.
The re-cap should be filled out before you start driving every day. The 8th day tells you how many hours you have available so you don't go over your 70 hours
34-hour restart: Pretty simple. 34 hours off between lines 1 & 2 and you will have 0's on lines 1-7. Box 1 0 Box 2 70! :?: |
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Rev.Vassago
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| Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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Since Dawn, the "expert in her own mind" has once again made it more confusing than it needs to be, I will give you the answer you are looking for:
If I worked 8 hours a day for 7 days in a row, my recap would look like this:
Day 1 : 8
Day 2: 8
Day 3 : 8
Day 4: 8
Day 5: 8
Day 6: 8
Day 7: 8
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Total: 56
Hours available to work today: 14 (70 hours minus the 56 I've already worked)
If I worked 11 hours today, tomorrow's recap would look like this:
Day 1: 8
Day 2: 8
Day 3: 8
Day 4: 8
Day 5: 8
Day 6: 8
Day 7: 11
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Total: 59
Hours available today: 11 (70 minus the 59 already worked)
So when recapping your hours, just take the oldest set of hours in the recap, and remove them. Then add the hours from yesterday to the bottom of the recap, and re-add up the totals. |
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Doogle
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| Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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Lets say he worked this:
Day 1: 8 hours-70=62
Day 2: 8 hours-62=54
Day 3: 8 hours-54=46
Day 4: 8 hours-46=38
Day 5: 8 hours-38=30
Day 6: 8 hours-30=22
Day 7: 10 hours-22=12
Day 8: 10 hours-12=2
Now when he reaches the nineth day should it look like this
Day9: 10-12=2
If so, how do you keep from DOT from wanting to know how you got those extra 8 hours.
I gues what I am saying is that do you just add the 8 hours onto the 2 left for the nineth day or do you have to redo your log.
I don't mean to be stupid, but I do not drive a truck my husband does, and even he doesn't know how to do this.
Rev.Vassago wrote: Since Dawn, the "expert in her own mind" has once again made it more confusing than it needs to be, I will give you the answer you are looking for:
If I worked 8 hours a day for 7 days in a row, my recap would look like this:
Day 1 : 8
Day 2: 8
Day 3 : 8
Day 4: 8
Day 5: 8
Day 6: 8
Day 7: 8
____________
Total: 56
Hours available to work today: 14 (70 hours minus the 56 I've already worked)
If I worked 11 hours today, tomorrow's recap would look like this:
Day 1: 8
Day 2: 8
Day 3: 8
Day 4: 8
Day 5: 8
Day 6: 8
Day 7: 11
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Total: 59
Hours available today: 11 (70 minus the 59 already worked)
So when recapping your hours, just take the oldest set of hours in the recap, and remove them. Then add the hours from yesterday to the bottom of the recap, and re-add up the totals. |
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Rev.Vassago
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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Doogle wrote: Lets say he worked this:
Day 1: 8 hours-70=62
Day 2: 8 hours-62=54
Day 3: 8 hours-54=46
Day 4: 8 hours-46=38
Day 5: 8 hours-38=30
Day 6: 8 hours-30=22
Day 7: 10 hours-22=12
Day 8: 10 hours-12=2
Now when he reaches the nineth day should it look like this
Day9: 10-12=2
If so, how do you keep from DOT from wanting to know how you got those extra 8 hours.
You are required to have the prior 8 days logs in your posession. DOT can (and will) go back and look at the prior days. All they have to do is look at YESTERDAY'S recap, and it will show the hours that are dropping off for today.
Quote: I gues what I am saying is that do you just add the 8 hours onto the 2 left for the nineth day or do you have to redo your log.
Yes - you just add the hours that drop off onto the current day. In your example, you would add 8 hours to day 9, giving you 10 hours to work. You are on the right track. :wink:
One thing to note is that if you do a 34 hour reset, then you should just record 0 for the prior 7 days, even if he had hours that he worked. 34 hour resets zero out everything. |
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lonewolf
Joined: 16 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: You are required to have the prior 8 days logs in your posession. DOT can (and will) go back and look at the prior days. All they have to do is look at YESTERDAY'S recap, and it will show the hours that are dropping off for today.
sorry rev,your wrong,your only required to have the prior 7 days,not 8
Quote: k)(2) The driver shall retain a copy of each record of duty status for the previous 7 consecutive days which shall be in his/her possession and available for inspection while on duty.
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.asp?rule_toc=764§ion=395.8§ion_toc=1942 |
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madii'swife
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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lonewolf wrote:
Quote: k)(2) The driver shall retain a copy of each record of duty status for the previous 7 consecutive days which shall be in his/her possession and available for inspection while on duty.
Ok, I'm no trucker, but, common sense would say that if you're keeping the previous 7 days and the current days, that would give you 8. I think you're both saying the same thing.... |
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lonewolf
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| Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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madii'swife wrote: lonewolf wrote:
Quote: k)(2) The driver shall retain a copy of each record of duty status for the previous 7 consecutive days which shall be in his/her possession and available for inspection while on duty.
Ok, I'm no trucker, but, common sense would say that if you're keeping the previous 7 days and the current days, that would give you 8. I think you're both saying the same thing....
no what rev said was "prior" 8 days plus current,which would be 9 days of logs,we are only required to have 8 days total,7 prior and the current day we are working on,i was just correcting his obvious typo :P |
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Myth_Buster
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| Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: Lets say he worked this:
Day 1: 8 hours-70=62
Day 2: 8 hours-62=54
Day 3: 8 hours-54=46
Day 4: 8 hours-46=38
Day 5: 8 hours-38=30
Day 6: 8 hours-30=22
Day 7: 10 hours-22=12
Day 8: 10 hours-12=2
Lets say he worked this:
Day 1: 8 hour = 8
Day 2: 8 hours = 8 + 8 = 16
Day 3: 8 hours = 8 + 8 + 8 = 24
Day 4: 8 hours = 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 = 32
Day 5: 8 hours = 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 = 40
Day 6: 8 hours = 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 = 48
Day 7: 10 hours = 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 10 = 58
Day 8: 10 hours = 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 10 + 10 = 68
Day 9: 8 hours = 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 10 + 10 + 8 = 68
Day 10: 5 hours = 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 10 + 10 + 8 + 5 = 65
Day 11: 10 hours = 8 + 8 + 8 + 10 + 10 + 8 + 5 + 10 = 67
Day 12: 0 hours has 34 hours off-duty = 0
Day 13: 12 hours = 0 + 12 = 12
The hours available on day 8 are calculated by adding the hours on duty for the 7 previous days. If the hours on duty for the seven previous day's equals 68 hours the driver has 2 hour they can use day 8.
70 hours in 8 consecutive days
60 hours in 7 consecutive days
The driver cannot drive after accumulating 60 hours in seven days or 70 hours in eight consecutive days.
Be safe. |
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