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SteveBooth
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:25 am Post subject: Flatbed straps |
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| I think GMAN slept in this morning and I need to know how many rubber tarp straps are typical to carry and what length. |
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traveler15301
Joined: 04 Mar 2005
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Location: Washington, PA & EVERYWHERE
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:31 am Post subject: Re: Flatbed straps |
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SteveBooth wrote: I think GMAN slept in this morning and I need to know how many rubber tarp straps are typical to carry and what length.
I'm not the GMAN but here's my $0.02.....
on the trailer I have about 100 24" in four bundles of around 25 each
on my headache rack I keep about 5 each of 9, 20, 30 and 36...you never know when you need an oddball here and there....
the numbers are not accurate (I've never counted and picked them up about ten at a time over the years as tehy break and wear out...or get "lost"!!!)....I've only estimated.....
God forbid I ever have to equip a "barren" trailer...I'll be lost...just start grabbin piles in my supply store.....
When I do have to change trailers (last time was 3 yr ago) I just switch all my equipment over to the new one.....
Don't buy them at a truckstop unless you MUST...like everything else there you'll pay about 3X as much!!! |
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SteveBooth
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:43 am Post subject: |
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| Ok, thanks. Glad I asked. I was only going to buy 50. |
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GMAN
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:48 am Post subject: |
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| Sorry for the delay, Steve. All you really need to start with is about 50 of the 21" straps. That is usually all I buy. I have used some of the longer straps, but the 21" seems to work well for me. If I need something longer, I usually hook a couple together. |
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SteveBooth
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:54 am Post subject: |
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| Maybe I'll go middle of the road with both replies and get 75. :D |
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traveler15301
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:02 am Post subject: |
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SteveBooth wrote: Maybe I'll go middle of the road with both replies and get 75. :D
Sound logic there my friend.....
I'm pretty sure my number is closer to that 100 figure....but one last word of wisdom on straps (much like many other things as well)....
It is better to have a thousand too many than ONE too few....... |
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GMAN
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| You are right about never having too many bungee's, traveler. They seem to disappear with time. I think for what Steve is planning on hauling, he can get along with 50. He can always add more. If he chooses to purchase more in the beginning, he will always be able to use them at some point. |
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Mountain Flyer
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| Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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| I like the 21" size best too... those long bungees are good sometimes and on occasion the 15" are good, but the 21's seem the most versatile. Dunno what tarps you are using STeve but for my 48' with full drop lumber tarps, I need like 150 bungees.... :roll: |
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SteveBooth
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| Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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Mountain Flyer wrote: Dunno what tarps you are using Steve but for my 48' with full drop lumber tarps, I need like 150 bungees.... :roll:
WTF.....back to the store! lol
I have 2 tarps 24x27 black. They were custom made for a customer of the truck store I go to. The owner of the store called him and asked if he could get back one of his spare sets. They are real nice, very heavy duty and 3 sets of D rings and a flap on one side of each tarp. I found a use for my old bath mats. I cut them up into squares. GMAN said I may need something like that to save my straps. |
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Maniac
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| Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Steve, I have bought from this guy before, good prices and fast shipping
http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZjustharris |
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Mountain Flyer
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| Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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You will need all sorts of padding to save your tarps. I have carpet squares, and some nice little cardboard "corners" that will save the corners. Steel is brutal on tarps, but many other loads will damage them as well. You have to always be looking for sharp corners and metal banding poking out, etc.. all will cut your tarps. Fortunately, they are not hard to patch. Mine have more patches than original material almost... :?
Enjoying a day off here in Seattle, after being in sunny warm Las Vegas loading, I am now in dreary, rainy cool Seattle to unload tomorrow.
It's all good......... 8) |
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GMAN
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| Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Steve, I don't recall whether I mentioned protecting your tarps. Carpet can be good for protecting your tarps as well as your straps. You may also want to get some duct tape. It could help to put some tape over a piece of carpet or other type of padding to keep it in place for your tarps. You should not get a lot of movement from anything you put under the straps, but wind can get under the tarps and move things around. A good snug tarp. which is protected by padding, will probably not move around that much. Duct tape can also act as a quick fix for a small rip until you can make the repair. You may also want to keep a bottle of rubbing alcohol with you to clean the tarp where you place the tape. Duct tape and rubbing alcohol. Never leave home without it. :wink: |
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Mountain Flyer
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| Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Good Idea with the tape Gman... I have not carried it, but will add it to my stash. It can be a pain to secure a piece of padding... that would most definitely be a help!
Learn something new every day..... :)
My good tip for the day: Always put TWO straps on your tarps when they are riding around rolled up on the bed of your truck. With one strap, they can wiggle free and fall off. Happened to me. TWICE. After the second time, I use two straps!!!!!!!!! 8) |
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traveler15301
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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GMAN wrote: Duct tape and rubbing alcohol. Never leave home without it. :wink:
Being a "hillbilly" I agree with the duct tape.....but as for alcohol....
wasn't there a thread on here about no alcohol on a CMV unless it is in the cargo compartment and a manifested part of the shipment?!? :wink:
Dawn might have something to say about this!!! :P |
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RostyC
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Steve, I was looking through the JJ Keller 2006 catalog and found a flatbed securement training program. They also have a handbook that covers how to secure different materials. I think you can get a handbook similar to theirs at OOIDAs' website in a PDF format for free though. |
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