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I.S.X. OR CAT ?
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COLT



Joined: 03 Jan 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:38 pm    Post subject: I.S.X. OR CAT ?  

ANYONE?
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bob h



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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:40 pm    Post subject:  

isx
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classicxl



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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:53 pm    Post subject:  

between those two chooses CAT
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solo379



Joined: 14 Feb 2004
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:10 pm    Post subject:  

What year?
It's always a CAT for me, but i've been advised, by CAT dealer folks, not to buy 2007 CAT, and wait at least a year, too many complications... :roll:
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yoopr



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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:07 pm    Post subject:  

Cat
What's up with the 2007?
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COLT



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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:14 pm    Post subject:  

My dispatcher decided to start driving again, so he is taking an o7 pete with a new engine... we do not know what engines are coming... some I.S.X. SOME CAT. I'm glad to take a bridge c 15 till we sort things out...
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COLT



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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:17 pm    Post subject:  

I don't think anyone knows, anyone tell us? every one I know wants a 06 engine
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solo379



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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:25 pm    Post subject:  

[quote="
What's up with the 2007?[/quote]

There is to many emission "improvments" on it, and too many things, could go wrong...not quiet tested yet! :sad:

that always seems to happen when they raise emission standards
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allan5oh



Joined: 26 Aug 2005
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:43 am    Post subject:  

solo379 wrote: What year?
It's always a CAT for me, but i've been advised, by CAT dealer folks, not to buy 2007 CAT, and wait at least a year, too many complications... :roll:

They're all going to be more complicated, not just CAT.

Either way, no post 2007 truck for me for many many MANY years.
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bob h



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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:50 am    Post subject:  

yoopr wrote: Cat
What's up with the 2007?

Same as ALL of the '07 engines... DPFs, new technology. The new 07 CATs have a spark plug, ignition coil, and fuel injector in the exhaust system. The DPF is an oxidation catalyst as well as a particulate trap. An electronic exhaust system with inlet and outlet pressure and temperature sensors to trigger catalyst regeneration.

Oh, and a closed crankcase, too... no more draft tubes.
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bob h



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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:52 am    Post subject:  

COLT wrote: My dispatcher decided to start driving again, so he is taking an o7 pete with a new engine... we do not know what engines are coming... some I.S.X. SOME CAT. I'm glad to take a bridge c 15 till we sort things out...

'07 (DPF) enignes are NOT available until 01/07... because truck manufacturers are not forced to install them until then.
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bob h



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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:54 am    Post subject:  

solo379 wrote: [quote="
What's up with the 2007?

There is to many emission "improvments" on it, and too many things, could go wrong...not quiet tested yet! :sad:

that always seems to happen when they raise emission standards[/quote]

The exhaust and closed crankcase are the only visible changes...
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COLT



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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:31 am    Post subject:  

The new 07 CATs have a spark plug, ignition coil, and fuel injector in the exhaust system. An electronic exhaust system with inlet and outlet pressure and temperature sensors to trigger catalyst regeneration.

WOW :shock: I wish I could talk our shop Foreman into swapping out engines, I'll take a regular C15 please, just think of the better auction price... My 01 Pete got sold at auction yesterday, in Grande Prarie. :cry:
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traveler15301



Joined: 04 Mar 2005
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Location: Washington, PA & EVERYWHERE

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:04 am    Post subject:  

just to throw in a different rub here.....its pre-03 for me. I have still not come to terms with EGR let alone all the newer crap! Just keep rebuiling as long as you can!!!
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solo379



Joined: 14 Feb 2004
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:41 am    Post subject:  

traveler15301 wrote: I have still not come to terms with EGR let alone all the newer crap!

CATs didn't have an EGR, till 2007, and frankly, i'm quiet happy, with my Acert...so far(246,000) :roll: :D
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