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RostyC
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| Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:12 am Post subject: Rates per lane |
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How can I find out the average rate per lane without paying alot of money? Truckloadrate.com wants 30.00 a month. That's a little too much for me right now seeing as how I need it more for learning than making a living.
Also, where can I find info on inbound and outbound trucks per city or state? I've seen some people post this info before but I'm not sure where they get it other than loadboards, which right now I can't subscribe to. I don't have an MC# |
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RostyC
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| Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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| 112 views and no replys.........have I stumped you guys? :shock: or is this information top secret? :lol: :lol: |
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SteveBooth
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| Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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| The load boards really don't display what the rates are. Most want you to call to get the numbers. I don't think your going to get a real answer to your question. I've seen rates that are published go from $1.10 to $3.00 per mile all over the country. There are no set rates for lanes as far as I can tell. |
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RostyC
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| Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps I'm not communicating very well. :oops: Here's an example of what I'm talking about. Where can find this information posted? (This is from another site)
Quote: Dry Van Major Market Lanes for August 2006
Prices are in $ per mile and Fuel in $ per gallon. Lane Avg Rate Avg Fuel Cost
Chicago - Atlanta 1.47 2.39
Chicago - Los Angeles 1.25 2.60
Chicago - Dallas 1.64 2.46
Atlanta - Chicago 1.27 2.39
Atlanta - Los Angeles 1.18 2.50
Atlanta - Dallas 1.45 2.44
Los Angeles - Chicago 1.27 2.61
Los Angeles - Atlanta 1.32 2.50
Los Angeles - Dallas 1.34 2.57
Dallas - Chicago 1.18 2.46
Dallas - Atlanta 1.08 2.44
Dallas - Los Angeles 1.30 2.57
August 2006 Rates Market Analysis (charts below)
Dry Van
Average Linehaul Rate for August 2006: $1.4782
1 month change: INCREASED 0.53 % from July's rate: $ 1.4704
3 month change: INCREASED 1.11 % from May's rate: $ 1.462
6 month change: INCREASED 2.37 % from February's rate: $ 1.444
12 month change: INCREASED 3.93 % from August 2005: $ 1.4223
Average Fuel Surcharge per mile for August 2006 of $0.31 INCREASED 6.90% from July's rate of $ 0.29. The U.S. Department of Energy's average cost per gallon of diesel fuel INCREASED 3.80 % from July's $2.93 per gallon to August's $3.05 per gallon.
Refrigerated
Average Linehaul Rate for August 2006: $1.5373
1 month change: INCREASED 0.22 % from July's rate: $ 1.534
3 month change: INCREASED 0.59 % from May's rate: $ 1.5283
6 month change: INCREASED 2.48 % from February's rate: $ 1.5001
12 month change: INCREASED 3.08 % from August 2005: $ 1.4914
Average Fuel Surcharge per mile for August 2006 of $0.26 DECREASED 3.70% from July's rate of $ 0.27.
Flat Bed
Average Linehaul Rate for August 2006: $1.5959
1 month change: DECREASED 0.57 % from July's rate: $ 1.605
3 month change: INCREASED 0.19 % from May's rate: $ 1.5928
6 month change: DECREASED 0.69 % from February's rate: $ 1.607
12 month change: INCREASED 0.08 % from August 2005: $ 1.5947
Average Fuel Surcharge per mile for August 2006 of $0.17 Remained Unchanged from July's rate of $ 0.17.
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Sonny Pruitt
Joined: 02 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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there is such a gap in rates you have shown how can you use them to make a decision?
Not all freight goes from major city to major city either.
Rates are weird.
And hard to figure out.
I've had a guy pay $4.00 per mile with 4 skids of french fries
Yet a truckload bearly breaks $1.75 going to the same place
I am looking on Internet truckstop 575 Philly to Uxbridge Mass
I do work for a carrier who gets 1450 from Philly area to Leominster, Mass ( 2 loads a day with a 5 year contract!)
How are you supposed to figure out rates? |
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RostyC
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| Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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In the first example the first number is the average rate per mile, and the second number is the average cost of fuel in that lane. It's not two different rates. So 1.47 is the average per mile rate and 2.39 is the average cost of fuel in that lane.
I see what your saying as well though about the rates and how they can vary.
Perhaps using that table is not very effective as far as everyday business practice, but I was going to keep an eye on it more for research, if I can find it. |
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yoopr
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| Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't know where you got that chart but it doesn't show the lanes from the Midwest to the East Coast-I think you'd find a better Freight rate. Outgoing from the Midwest to the East. Coming back out is usually a different story. |
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Sonny Pruitt
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| Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| oh :oops: |
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yoopr
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| Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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Sonny Pruitt wrote: oh :oops:
Oh Me?
I was just curious what his chart showed for Midwest to East.
I don't know how far those loads from Philly to Mass. are but it can't be very far so the Rate sounds pretty good.
Money for the East coast has usually been pretty good. |
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Sonny Pruitt
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| Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 2:52 am Post subject: |
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No, oh I didn't read his post right.
That Philly rate is so far off the charts from what the boards offer. I had no idea that that kind of $$$ was out there. If I went in and asked for that kind of $ they would throw me out on my behind. And yet thats what they are getting. And when I talk to the owner of the trucking co he acts like "what, isn't everyone getting that rate?" So, rates will drive you nuts. |
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RostyC
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| Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:37 am Post subject: |
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Quote: Don't know where you got that chart but it doesn't show the lanes from the Midwest to the East Coast-I think you'd find a better Freight rate. Outgoing from the Midwest to the East. Coming back out is usually a different story.
I got it from another site from someones post. I'm wondering where he got from so I can access it. It might not be a full chart, I don't know. I didn't really want to register to post over there just to ask one question, but I can.
Also, how do you check on inbound and outbound trucks? |
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GMAN
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| Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:33 am Post subject: |
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| Rates will differ according to the time of year and commodity hauled. These companies who publish rates are only reporting what is given to them and not all loads are reported. What you see are average rates for those reporting. I have found that the rates I normally get are higher than those I see with these services. These rates should only be used as a guideline when looking at freight lanes. Some of the load boards do publish number of trucks and loads coming into and out of certain areas, but you need a MC number to access those boards. OOIDA has a load board through DAT. I don't believe you need a MC number to subscribe, however you should check for yourself. You need to be a member of OOIDA to be able to subscribe. I don't recall all the features of the board, but you could check it out. I believe it is called members edge or truckers edge. You will see it from their web page. The most accurate way to check on rates is to call on some listed loads. If you don't have access to a load board, you can always stop at many truck stops and check their board. Most subscribe to DAT. |
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RostyC
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| Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:07 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks GMAN, I did in fact join OOIDA this past week. I looked for a board and couldn't find it, must not be looking hard enough, I have it up in another window, I'll go look again. |
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RostyC
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| Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:16 am Post subject: |
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| By the way GMAN it's been a while since I've seen one of your post, hope all is well. |
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RostyC
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| Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:41 am Post subject: |
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| I found the board, you do need a MC#. |
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