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Rev.Vassago
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
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Location: The other side of the coin
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| Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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Rawlco wrote: At TMC any u-turn, ticketed or not, is a termination offense.
Even one in Jersey? :shock: |
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wot i life
Joined: 16 Feb 2006
Posts: 2345
Location: At the bottom of the garden, dancing merrily with the pixies
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| Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:07 pm Post subject: Re: screwed up with a u turn |
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dlasaine wrote:
i am so friggin depressed now.
any words of comfort? Believe me, all drivers come unstuck some day.
Just forget it and learn from it.
I,ve driven all over Europe and for some of the most prestigious companies around(Allelly,s heavy haulage... G.C.S.Johnson Heavy haulage. .. Richard Long international etc etc etc.)
I,ve come unstuck more than once and so did all my workmates.
Nobody is perfect.
I,m damn frigging good, but not perfect :wink:
You,re a good driver too!
You got the same licence I got! :wink: |
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BanditsCousin
Joined: 05 Jun 2004
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Location: Chicago, IL
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| Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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I'd get it dropped, or probation. I've said it quite a bit on here, but the county would rather have you pay a fine and be on your way than give you a smudge on your driving record.
NOt all companies use DAC, remember :wink: :lol: :lol: |
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AmEagleDrvr
Joined: 09 Feb 2005
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Location: Texas
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| Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:53 am Post subject: |
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Rev.Vassago wrote: Rawlco wrote: At TMC any u-turn, ticketed or not, is a termination offense.
Even one in Jersey? :shock:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: good one, Rev. |
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mbadriver
Joined: 19 Oct 2007
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Location: I94 Exit 69
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| Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:20 am Post subject: |
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Rawlco wrote: At TMC any u-turn, ticketed or not, is a termination offense.
Termination for U Turns is pretty standard.
But, what about you turn off the road into a drive. Then back out on the road to reverse your direction. Is that illegal? Seems no different than backing your car out of the driveway. |
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MtFoxx
Joined: 19 Jan 2008
Posts: 76
Location: Walking Home
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: Like they was sayin' . . . |
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bigtimba wrote: . . . you don't have a job . . you ain't got no money . . throw yourself on the mercy of the court. Tell the judge you believe you have a defense but you can't afford a lawyer. Judges understand. They were (are) all lawyers and they don't feel the community is being properly represented unless you have a lawyer. Be humble, be sincere and be honest. U turn laws are vague, at best. Your CDL IS your lively-hood and the judge needs to hear it from you.
This is a possibility... I have had a similar situation go well in court. However, I was driving a pickup w/ a livestock trailer; not a rig.
You can still plead not guilty and ask for time to secure representation; If the judge won't budge. You can continue this out for some time if it will buy you the time you need to Refi the house. BE LOOKING FOR A NEW POSSITION THE ENTIRE TIME.
Chin up man... anxiety blocks learning and creativity; something you can't be at a loss for right now!
Just my .02 worth, sorry bout the wife...
Good luck man. |
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Skywalker
Joined: 10 Oct 2005
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Location: Pulling a Tanker for Superior Carriers!!
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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Rawlco wrote: At TMC any u-turn, ticketed or not, is a termination offense.
As it is with "most companies". |
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BIG JEEP on 44's
Joined: 09 Jul 2005
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Location: Fixing something under my jeep
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| I've never made a u-turn ...But I've employed many 1pt turns . :lol: |
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Skywalker
Joined: 10 Oct 2005
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Location: Pulling a Tanker for Superior Carriers!!
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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mbadriver wrote:
Termination for U Turns is pretty standard.
But, what about you turn off the road into a drive. Then back out on the road to reverse your direction. Is that illegal? Seems no different than backing your car out of the driveway.
There is not, to my knowledge, any prohibition against pulling off the road into a driveway and backing out again onto the roadway. I have seen company policies that show a "U-turn" on a street or a road to be a termination offense....but it was always limited to a u-turn. No mention of going into a drive and backing out to reverse direction. Its not "illegal" trafficwise, whereas....in many places u-turns are illegal.
Using a drive to reverse directions...is a maneuver best done with tremendous caution. You are extremely vulnerable to being hit while backing back out on to the roadway...from either direction. Whenever I have to reverse direction....as in the case of one of my deliveries.... I make use of a parking lot big enough to do so 8) |
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Dejanh
Joined: 04 Nov 2006
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Location: Charlotte, North Carolina
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| I just did a u-turn in Winston-Salem at 3:00 AM across 4 lanes of traffic due to bad directions...If there was a better choice i would have taken it but since there was not, i took the only one i knew about. |
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Sheepdancer
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Really from what I see the problem you are having right now is not the ticket, its being fired for a safety related reason. Unfortunately, even if you get the ticket cleared, its been my experience that many companies still wont hire you because you were fired.
Also for the record, you mentioned JB hunt wont touch you for 3 to 6 months. It will be 6 months. And only 6 months if you have been driving for someone else for those 6 months clean with no problems. |
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golfhobo
Joined: 16 Oct 2005
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Location: the 19th hole / NC
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| Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:03 am Post subject: |
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Skywalker wrote: Rawlco wrote: At TMC any u-turn, ticketed or not, is a termination offense.
As it is with "most companies".
Okay.... we've finally found a subject I apparently know NOTHING about. :lol: :lol: [Belay that response, Rev! :lol: ]
I was NEVER told in CDL school that a CMV was NOT allowed to make a U-turn IF it was allowed for other vehicles at that location. I don't REMEMBER seeing anything in my CDL manual about it.
Someone PLEASE cite any reg, law or whatever info you have to support this claim, as I make them quite OFTEN! :shock: |
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Rev.Vassago
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:33 am Post subject: |
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golfhobo wrote: Skywalker wrote: Rawlco wrote: At TMC any u-turn, ticketed or not, is a termination offense.
As it is with "most companies".
Okay.... we've finally found a subject I apparently know NOTHING about. :lol: :lol: [Belay that response, Rev! :lol: ]
I was NEVER told in CDL school that a CMV was NOT allowed to make a U-turn IF it was allowed for other vehicles at that location. I don't REMEMBER seeing anything in my CDL manual about it.
Someone PLEASE cite any reg, law or whatever info you have to support this claim, as I make them quite OFTEN! :shock:
They said nothing about the law. They said everything about company policy. Most companies will terminate if you are caught making a u-turn. |
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golfhobo
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Okay, Rev.... I caught the distinction, and I said I never heard any reg or rationale that would support it. Since I don't work for one of "most companies," and there are no regs against it, I am just wondering WHY "most companies" would terminate you for doing NOTHING wrong??
I mean, I could understand IF you crunched a "civilian" while doing it, or MAYBE even IF you got cited because there was a no U-turn sign.... but otherwise?? Just for MAKING a U-turn??
What is their reasoning?? Just because they "said so?" |
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Orangetxguy
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Have you ever seen the trailer, that was stuck in the center median, with the trailer axles down in the mud, the landing gear dug into the ground, and the trailer sitting on the tractor's frame and drive tires? Have you ever seen a trailer cross-ways of a city street, with a car wedged under the trailer frame?
Those are the 2 most common scenerio's where a driver made a "legal" U-turn, and caused major problems, thus the policy and termination.
Back in the mid-90's a Schneider National unit, took a wrong turn down by the Kingdome, ended up in Pioneer Square, which is part of downtown Seattle. the driver decided he could make a U-turn in an intersection, and caused over $3 million in damages to a 100 year old structure. Looked real funny on TV, watching them throw bricks off the roof of the trailer, so they could move it away from where it was at. The structure that the trailer hit was like a "gazebo" that was made out of cast-iron, built in 1889. The driver got the trailer into the side of a building, trying to get away from the "gazebo". The building he hit second is where the bricks came from. I remember the incident well...just can not remember the name of that dang structure for the life of me. |
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