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peterbuilt1
Joined: 17 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:26 am Post subject: team logging |
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| I and my wife want to start teaming, can we log 8 on and 8 off or do we have to drive 10 straight? I haven't teamed since 1991 so i don't know what the best way to log would be. Any help would be greatly appreciated. |
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P Jug Joe
Joined: 15 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:57 am Post subject: |
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They've really messed things up with the new HOS. Some folks like them- when I'm running hard it just makes it harder to be "legal." Which is, of course, not the same as being safe.
I think you can log 8 hours straight. You are supposed to have a break somewhere in your 11 hours, but it doesn't say where.
I'm just answering since no one else did. I know how I log things- and I may be making mistakes here and there but I have passed a few paperwork checks and my carrier hasn't had any problems- so I think I'm okay.
The problem you'll run into with 8 on and 8 off is that if you drive 8 hours and take an 8 hour break... you're at 16 hours. You'll need 2 more hours to make a 10 hour break (I believe you can split the 10 hours into 8 and 2). Once you start driving, unless you have a 10 hour break, you cannot drive after 14 hours. So your 8 on, 8 off puts you at 16 hours- well over the 14 hour limit unless you take another 2 hours off.
That is my poorly versed understanding.
Sorry. |
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Windwalker
Joined: 22 Oct 2005
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Location: Holiday, FL
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| Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 7:38 am Post subject: Re: team logging |
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peterbuilt1 wrote: I and my wife want to start teaming, can we log 8 on and 8 off or do we have to drive 10 straight? I haven't teamed since 1991 so i don't know what the best way to log would be. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
If you're talking about driving 8 on and 8 off with a team mate, NO... You can't do it unless you both take off 2 more hours. You can drive 10 on and 10 off, of include fueling to come out to 10 hours. But, since you MUST take a 10 hour break between shifts. In order for one driver to get a 10 hr break, the other driver almost must drive for 10 hours. |
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PackRatTDI
Joined: 29 Mar 2006
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Location: Las Cruces, NM
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| Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:01 am Post subject: |
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| So how DO you team drive under the new rules? Is the only way possible 10 on/10 off? |
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allan5oh
Joined: 26 Aug 2005
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Location: jackassville (winnipeg, mb)
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| Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:38 am Post subject: |
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| you can do 8 on, 2 off, 2 on, 8 off. either that or 10/10. You can only split 8/2 now. Anything less then 8 hours sleeper berth counts towards your 14 hour rule as well. |
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PackRatTDI
Joined: 29 Mar 2006
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Location: Las Cruces, NM
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| Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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allan5oh wrote: you can do 8 on, 2 off, 2 on, 8 off. either that or 10/10. You can only split 8/2 now. Anything less then 8 hours sleeper berth counts towards your 14 hour rule as well.
I guess the new HOS were intended on making the roads safer by making drivers too confused to drive. :lol: |
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peterbuilt1
Joined: 17 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| thanx guys, those new hos rules really suck. |
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P Jug Joe
Joined: 15 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 2:21 am Post subject: |
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peterbuilt1 wrote: thanx guys, those new hos rules really suck.
You are the only guy who really "gets it" :lol: :lol: |
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mike3fan
Joined: 04 Aug 2006
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Location: michigan
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| Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:42 am Post subject: |
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Quote: thanx guys, those new hos rules really suck
You can almost understand their thinking,most studies show that you need 8 hrs of sleep to get enough rest,but most studies are done in a controlled enviroment and in the real world of team driving it has to be damn near impossible to get 8 hrs of rest in the bunk.
I think that anymore than 5 on 5 off is too much to ask,if you don't get proper rest how can they expect you to now drive for 8 hrs?
I was never more tired driving than I was the few times that I drove teams running to CA,just couldn't trust or relax enough to get any rest. |
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syl77dar
Joined: 09 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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| goodluck |
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