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Ian Williams
Joined: 22 Aug 2005
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Location: Northern NV
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| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:14 am Post subject: Decline of Cab-Overs |
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Why have cab overs become less popular?
Is it the safety/rollover issue?
Inferior aerodynamics?
Just don't look cool? |
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Windwalker
Joined: 22 Oct 2005
Posts: 2822
Location: Holiday, FL
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| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:01 am Post subject: |
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| It's just a bit difficult to really appreciate that left front tire kicking you in the butt all the way down the road. Put a hood on it and the ride gets much smoother. |
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marcel27208
Joined: 19 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 6:14 am Post subject: |
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| even the new cabover's the argosy are loud and rough! |
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duck
Joined: 16 Sep 2006
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Location: Green Bay - Wisconsin
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| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 6:52 am Post subject: |
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I thik a lot of it is driver retention and comfort like others said. Me I liked a COE. Easy to turn and maneuver, excellent viz. If my winshield aint scratched I didn't hit it :lol: !!
First COE I rode in was an old Ford - no air ride. Learned in an 88 International. Cab overs make me nostalgic -- that said I would not buy one these days -- I like the hood and ride too much. |
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geomon
Joined: 13 Jul 2005
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Location: Sacramento, CA
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| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 9:29 am Post subject: |
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| Digging out some memories here....I drove a White Freightliner COE the summer of '79....no power steering and more than the left tire kicking my butt, I remember it took some getting used to the "back slapping" that occured. |
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mike3fan
Joined: 04 Aug 2006
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Location: michigan
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I started driving a single axle COE international OTR hauling 4,000 lb loads from MI to NJ and deadhead back when I-80 was voted 10 yrs in a row worst interstate in the US,I know it took 10 yrs off my driving career!
I think that once JB and SNI started going to conventionals that pretty much doomed them. |
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Mackman
Joined: 14 Sep 2005
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Location: Concordville PA
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| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:16 am Post subject: Re: Decline of Cab-Overs |
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Ian Williams wrote: Just don't look cool?
Thats why i would never buy one
i love my hoods 379 W900 and the good old 9900ix |
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ChrisSai
Joined: 09 Feb 2005
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Location: MidWest
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:15 am Post subject: |
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| I believe the birth of the Cabover was to gain maximum usable body length in the days when overall allowed length was shorter. As the restrictions have now been liberalized most drivers prefer the ride of the conventional cab. |
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classicxl
Joined: 08 Nov 2004
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Location: Rosemount MN
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:07 am Post subject: |
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| I check the freightliner website and it still seems they are cont to build the argosy |
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SteveBooth
Joined: 18 May 2005
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:13 am Post subject: |
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| When you go into the back of the sleeper in a cabover do you step down into it? |
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Scoe
Joined: 18 Jun 2003
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Location: Portland, OR
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:36 am Post subject: |
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SteveBooth wrote: When you go into the back of the sleeper in a cabover do you step down into it?
NO, you simply slide your legs up and over the doghouse and you are now in the sleeper.
Those were the days... |
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classicxl
Joined: 08 Nov 2004
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Location: Rosemount MN
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:11 am Post subject: |
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| there is no dog house in the flat floor cab overs. get out of your seat like any other truck turn around hello sleeper |
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PackRatTDI
Joined: 29 Mar 2006
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Location: Las Cruces, NM
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classicxl wrote: I check the freightliner website and it still seems they are cont to build the argosy
I read somewhere that 2006 was going to be the last year for North American Argosy production though in Australia will continue on.
I've noticed that trucking firms in Russia have been buying up hundreds of ex JB Hunt International 9800 and Freightliner Argosy's. I guess they can be picked up and shipped from the US far cheaper than it costs to buy a Volvo, Scania or Renault tractor unit from Western Europe. Plus the sleeper in the 9800 is a lot roomier than many European truck sleepers. Russian import regulations are apparently less restrictive than the rest of Europe since they also import quite a few US market used autos as well. Lots of Moscow cops ride around in Crown Victorias.
Here's an old JB 9800 in Russia connected to a European market 3 axle trailer.
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yoopr
Joined: 01 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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If I was a City driver just running local that's all I'd want.
Did my time in them OTR back in the day and that was enough.
Oops-We had COE's in Iraq-How quickly I forget. :P |
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Jumbo
Joined: 27 Aug 2006
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Location: Northern Wisconsin
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| I started in a pete 362 coe. Sure had a lot of room and you get around with it. Problem was you couldn't see anything along side of you on the right. It could have been real easy to sideswipe someone if you weren't really careful. |
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