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Malaki86
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| Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:11 am Post subject: Auto-idle shutdown question |
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I have an '07 International with a Cummins ISX. The truck is equipped with an auto-shutdown if the truck idles more than 5 minutes.
To bypass it, you have to sit and wait 4 mins, 30 secs, wait for a light to start flashing on the dash, and tap the throttle. Then it'll run till it's out of fuel if you let it.
I've tried to bypass it by bumping up the throttle with the cruise control (which does work), but even then, 5 mins later, it'll shut down.
Is there a way to quickly bypass this? Meaning, if I stop, and know I want the truck to stay running, hit a button/switch/whatever when I stop, and it'll stay running?
I don't want to attempt to alter anything (company truck) and none of the mechanics know if it can be done or not. |
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yoopr
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I don't want to attempt to alter anything (company truck) and none of the mechanics know if it can be done or not.
I'd just wait the 4 minutes to reset the Idle cruise. |
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uncleal13
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| Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| A friend of mine has a Volvo that does this. If you just let it idle, it will shut down. If you hit resume on cruise it will rev up to 700 rpm and run all night. On ISX if you hit resume or set with cruise turned off that will adjust your idle speed by 25 rpm increments but it will still shut down. You have to have the cruise turned on to go to fast idle. However if this is your own truck your dealer can disable the idle shutdown using their computer. |
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watevr777
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| This is a setting on the computer software it can be changed BUT that might be what your company wants it to be |
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RockyMtnProDriver
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| Why would you want to keep the engine running? |
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Overloaded
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RockyMtnProDriver wrote: Why would you want to keep the engine running?
Maybe he likes his A/C or heater when sleeping. |
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Malaki86
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Quote: RockyMtnProDriver wrote:
Why would you want to keep the engine running?
Maybe he likes his A/C or heater when sleeping .
Ya - there's just something I like about being comfortable...
I tried the bumping up of the idle, but it'll still do the auto-shutdown.
I'll just have to live with the 5 minute wait, I guess. I just wish it'd give a warning beep or something prior to it shutting down. Just so I don't have to sit here and stare at the dash waiting for a light to start flashing. |
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COLT
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| My boss some years ago, picked up a new tractor, it was cold and snowing hard. Well after seeing a few in the ditch, he thought it would be a good idea to have a snooze. Five minutes... shutdown ? Five minutes... shutdown ? He put his boot on the throttle.... shutdown ! Well he had to drive home that night, :lol: Now he knows what it's like for us, when we have to! We have to about 100 nights a winter! |
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JBenson2
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| With all the government rules coversing safety, I would think it would be illegal to force a driver to sleep in a rig with no heat, especially up here in Minnesota where the temps can drop to 20 degrees below zero on some nights. |
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COLT
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:32 am Post subject: |
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| I'M sorry if I've miss-led you :oops: It was fixed at the dealer the next day, we don't have to drive all night because of that, we have other reasons. Sorry for the confusion :oops: |
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Porchclimber
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I've had a Webasto on every truck I've owned.
It's the only way to travel. |
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bob h
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:51 pm Post subject: Re: Auto-idle shutdown question |
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Malaki86 wrote: I have an '07 International with a Cummins ISX. The truck is equipped with an auto-shutdown if the truck idles more than 5 minutes.
To bypass it, you have to sit and wait 4 mins, 30 secs, wait for a light to start flashing on the dash, and tap the throttle. Then it'll run till it's out of fuel if you let it.
I've tried to bypass it by bumping up the throttle with the cruise control (which does work), but even then, 5 mins later, it'll shut down.
Is there a way to quickly bypass this? Meaning, if I stop, and know I want the truck to stay running, hit a button/switch/whatever when I stop, and it'll stay running?
I don't want to attempt to alter anything (company truck) and none of the mechanics know if it can be done or not.
This is an adjustable parameter in the engine ECM, as long as a tech with C's software has a password, it can be easily changed. be aware that no matter how this issue is approached, the owner can still acquire "idle hours" information from an ECM download. Tell the boss to buy a webasto! |
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watevr777
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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FYI
There is no state or city laws anywhere in the US that prevent you from idling under hours of service ...sleeper |
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Windwalker
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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watevr777 wrote: FYI
There is no state or city laws anywhere in the US that prevent you from idling under hours of service ...sleeper
Think you'd better check NY on that one. I've seen a driver get a ticket for idling at 15 degrees. Also, NJ has cops parked in the service areas along the turnpike just looking for someone to idle his truck. |
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