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Fredog
Joined: 23 Apr 2005
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Location: North Georgia
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| Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:53 am Post subject: Re: DAC |
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nobotox wrote: What does DAC actually stand for? I asked my instructor at cdl school and she didn't know.
it stands for Drive-A-check. they are now usis, which is united states information service.
it probably wont do any good to post a rebuttal. that is only for if a company reports something that isnt true, if a prospective employer wants the details, they will ask. |
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Skywalker
Joined: 10 Oct 2005
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Location: Pulling a Tanker for Superior Carriers!!
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mbadriver wrote: Creek Jackson wrote:
Preventable or non preventable accident? All accidents with no exception are preventable.
Boy is that an arrogant statement. Right about the time a person utter's such nonsense the "rusty rod of reality" get's stuck up their rear end.
"mba".... I agree with you! That statement he made sounds like something uttered by some brainless 21 yr old twit right out of college....who lucked out and got a job in "Safety or Dispatch", who couldn't even figure out how to start a tractor!!
There is a significant difference between a "preventable" and "non-preventable" accident or incident. It boils down to a matter of control or non-control of the vehicle or circumstances.
I guess by "Creek's" standards....if he was sleeping in a truckstop, in the sleeper berth, and the person parked next to him pulled out and raked his tractor and ripped the hood off leaving it on the ground.....he would say it was his fault for lack of anything else....because he was born and happened to be there?
I would have to award him a t-shirt with this on both front and back: :withstupid: |
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Fredog
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Skywalker wrote: mbadriver wrote: Creek Jackson wrote:
Preventable or non preventable accident? All accidents with no exception are preventable.
Boy is that an arrogant statement. Right about the time a person utter's such nonsense the "rusty rod of reality" get's stuck up their rear end.
"mba".... I agree with you! That statement he made sounds like something uttered by some brainless 21 yr old twit right out of college....who lucked out and got a job in "Safety or Dispatch", who couldn't even figure out how to start a tractor!!
There is a significant difference between a "preventable" and "non-preventable" accident or incident. It boils down to a matter of control or non-control of the vehicle or circumstances.
I guess by "Creek's" standards....if he was sleeping in a truckstop, in the sleeper berth, and the person parked next to him pulled out and raked his tractor and ripped the hood off leaving it on the ground.....he would say it was his fault for lack of anything else....because he was born and happened to be there?
I would have to award him a t-shirt with this on both front and back: :withstupid:
maybe he means preventable on the part of the person who caused it? after all, in your example, the driver who took your hood could have prevented it, but you couldnt..
or, maybe he is just an ass?? |
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Skywalker
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Fredog wrote:
maybe he means preventable on the part of the person who caused it? after all, in your example, the driver who took your hood could have prevented it, but you couldnt..
or, maybe he is just an ass??
Not sure.....he certainly didn't clarify it.....so I guess its about 50/50? 8) |
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Mattangcobra
Joined: 06 Nov 2005
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Location: Burlington,NC
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I had 2 drivers back into my truck twice in one week. I wasn't in the truck either time. One in Cali and one in Texas. I told my boss (he also owns the truck) about the first one. He said I shoudn't have parked in a parking spot in a truck stop. I wasn't even on the end where a truck could rip my hood off with his swing.
Anyway No more than 500 dollars damage on both. I didn't tell him about the second one till I got back. I wanted him to tell me to my face it was my fault. Needless to say his tone was way different when I wasn't 2000 miles away. |
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Double L
Joined: 26 Sep 2007
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Location: Illinois
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| Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:33 am Post subject: |
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Mattangcobra wrote: I had 2 drivers back into my truck twice in one week. I wasn't in the truck either time. One in Cali and one in Texas. I told my boss (he also owns the truck) about the first one. He said I shoudn't have parked in a parking spot in a truck stop.
Well hell that doesn't make any sense. It sure is better than blocking the fuel island and preventing other drivers from fueling at that pump! That is one of my biggest pet peeves is when people block the fuel island and they take hours. Now if it's to pay for fuel, get something to eat or drink and then head back out on the road then that is acceptable to me! But if your gonna sit down and eat then park your truck in a parking space. You shouldn't have parked in a parking space, now thats funny! :roll: |
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got mud?
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Mattangcobra wrote: I had 2 drivers back into my truck twice in one week. I wasn't in the truck either time. One in Cali and one in Texas. I told my boss (he also owns the truck) about the first one. He said I shoudn't have parked in a parking spot in a truck stop. I wasn't even on the end where a truck could rip my hood off with his swing.
Anyway No more than 500 dollars damage on both. I didn't tell him about the second one till I got back. I wanted him to tell me to my face it was my fault. Needless to say his tone was way different when I wasn't 2000 miles away.
should have told him if he didn't send you that way you wouldn't have had to park in that spot. looks to me like its his fault! |
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Creek Jackson
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First, all you panty-waisted fricks can go frick yourself.
Now,,,,,,
give me an example of an accident that is non preventable. |
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Double L
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1. Another driver backing into your truck at a truckstop and/or shipper/receiver
2. Your sitting at a stop light and another vehicle hits your truck (could be from behind or someone coming from the other way and they careen into your truck) |
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Creek Jackson
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| Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:04 am Post subject: |
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Double L wrote: 1. Another driver backing into your truck at a truckstop and/or shipper/receiver
2. Your sitting at a stop light and another vehicle hits your truck (could be from behind or someone coming from the other way and they careen into your truck)
Good examples. They are still preventable. In all accidents, one individual is given the opportunity for correction. This applies to any kind of accident, highway, workplace, anywhere, anytime.
This is why they are called "accidents" and not just "events" or something similar.
Thanks for letting me clarify this. |
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Double L
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| But it wouldn't be your fault though! It would be the other driver's fault. |
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rvrjr7
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Unpreventable accident Hitting a deer
Preventable accident backing into a truck that is parked |
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mbadriver
Joined: 19 Oct 2007
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Quit trying to separate the fly s#it from the pepper.
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." You plagiarize this from Einstein and attribute it to yourself as an original thought.
Any accident where the driver acted in a reasonably expected manner to prevent it.
Creek Jackson wrote: First, all you panty-waisted fricks can go frick yourself.
Now,,,,,,
give me an example of an accident that is non preventable. |
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MtFoxx
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rvrjr7 wrote: Unpreventable accident Hitting a deer
Preventable accident backing into a truck that is parked
Exactly... |
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Skywalker
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Creek Jackson wrote: First, all you panty-waisted fricks can go frick yourself.
Now,,,,,,
give me an example of an accident that is non preventable.
Your t-shirt with this on the front and back is already on its way: :withstupid:
Here's another one: Driver is going north on I-55 in IL, a thunder storm comes up fast and violently. Truck is blown off the road and knocked over.
Was the driver at fault? No. Was it preventable? No. How was that determination made? By the Safety Department at CFI. Why was it made that way? Because there was an IL State Trooper not more than 200 feet behind the CFI truck....who filled out the report and stated that the driver did everything in his power to stay on the road in the sudden bad weather, and the truck was blown over by a tornado.
My friend.....there are ZERO absolutes in this world... at least where people who have a grip on reality are concerned. Absolutes exist only in the minds of "know it alls"....or "wannabee" know it alls.
No, actually...there are 3 potential "absolutes"..... Birth, Taxes, and Death. 8) |
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