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Paystar_5000
Joined: 16 Sep 2005
Posts: 79
Location: Hobbs, New Mexico
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| Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:33 am Post subject: would you drive these trucks |
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truck a.
problems. air leak under cab without truck running will drain air tank in about 3 minutes. to much play in steering wheel,air dryer not working, air compressor going bad u can leave the truck on and oil constantly comes out of the air tanks, brakes are week u can push the brakes to the floor at 20 mph and it takes about 100-150 yds to stop not to mention the fact that u can pull the parking brake while the truck is rolling and it will roll another 10-15 feet before stopping. and no gauges work
truck b
has no seatbelt leaks power steering fluid and transmisson fluid like its going out of style the door doesnt latch all the way the transmisson sticks in reverse. gauges broke
am I wrong for refusing to drive these trucks granted im losing pay. would any one here drive something thats that big of a piece of crap. and what would be the pentalities if D.O.T pulled you over in truck a or b? |
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Jackrabbit379
Joined: 22 Oct 2005
Posts: 4741
Location: Wichita Falls,Tx
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| Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:37 am Post subject: |
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| Sounds like one of CW McCall's songs. :P |
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GMAN
Joined: 13 Feb 2005
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Location: Tennessee
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| Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:09 am Post subject: |
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So......what is the problem? Real truckers don't use their brakes, anyway. :roll: :wink:
If the trucks are as bad as you say and you were stopped by DOT, they would shut your truck down ASAP. I won't drive a truck I know to not be safe. You and the company could be fined if you were caught. My advice is that unless the owner makes repairs where the trucks are safe to drive, to not get in them. |
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Uturn2001
Joined: 10 Jan 2005
Posts: 4605
Location: East Central IL between the corn and the beans
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| Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:28 am Post subject: |
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As far as the penalties go that would depend on the state. You as the driver could face several hundred dollars, maybe even thousands of dollars in fines or those could be given to the owner of the equipment or both. In addition you would be shut down and the only way the truck is going to move is after all repairs are made to bring it into compliance or at the end of a wrecker.
Personally though I would not worry so much about what would happen if the DOT caught you driving something that did not meet FMCSA regs as you should be worried what would happen if you ended up seriously hurting or killing someone because of the malfunctions. You could easily be facing jail time, permament loss of your CDL, and potentially millions of dollars in civil liabilites. More than likely you would not be in that jail cell alone as the owner would also be there with you. |
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Sealord
Joined: 20 Jun 2005
Posts: 1695
Location: Florida
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| Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:48 am Post subject: Unsound |
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| Is there any way you could anonymously request the NM DOT pay an unannounced visit to you employer for vehicle inspections? BOL |
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Retirednavysnipe
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Posts: 105
Location: Seattle, Wa
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| Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:13 am Post subject: |
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I left a job after just one week because of equipment that you just described. They could not put me in a truck that would pass a pre trip. They were very nice about it.
The screwed up part was they tried to put me in a 2001 Mack Vision that had the following problems:
Would not hold Air. Leak out after about 4 or 5 minutes.
Would not Idle, believe it had a severed vapor lock issue or air intaking into the fuel somewhere.
They only way I could get it to shift into 7th gear was to wind it up to about 2300 RPMS.
Steering was way off.
Would not pass Brake check.
I told dispatch I would not take the truck, and the wife was coming to pick me up. While I waited I went to offload my stuff off the truck and another driver (newly hired) was about ready to take off on a run with that truck.
Needless to say I was astonished. I spoke with him about the problems with the truck. I don't know if he left with it or not, but I believe he did.
Never drive a truck you believe is unsafe. Overall you the driver are responsible. If you kill someone because of unsafe equipment do you really believe that your dispatch is going to tell investigatin officers that he knew of the problems and told you to drive anyway? |
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yoopr
Joined: 01 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:05 am Post subject: |
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| No I wouldn't drive them-They're not up to snuff legally with DOT |
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Paystar_5000
Joined: 16 Sep 2005
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Location: Hobbs, New Mexico
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| Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:16 am Post subject: |
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| thanks guys i was hoping i was doing to responsible thing... the mechanic tried to tell me it was perfectly safe to drive of course he's 400 pounds and lazier than hell. he tried to tell me the water and oil in the tanks was from them not being drained hate to tell him this but if your air dryers working u shouldnt have any water in the tanks and ive never seen oil in there before i drove their truck. |
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roadhog
Joined: 16 Sep 2005
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Location: Upper Lower Michigan...he heeeeeeeeee
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| Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:35 am Post subject: |
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I've seen some crap like this, but it's usually Fruit Farmers hauling harvest 10 miles to the Fruit Processor. They resurect vehicles like this once a year. You never know where the damn hornets are nested. :evil:
....sorry Rawlco. :lol: |
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Tilar
Joined: 27 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:59 am Post subject: Re: would you drive these trucks |
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| Paystar_5000 wrote: would you drive these trucks Not just no, but Hell no. |
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PackRatTDI
Joined: 29 Mar 2006
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Location: Las Cruces, NM
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| Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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| I would drive truck A, drive it towards the mechanics car, step on the brakes and let the truck smash into the car. Get out and say "Whoopsie Daisy!" |
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yoopr
Joined: 01 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Besides the Fact that the Driver has to be DOT Qualified-So does the truck he drives. |
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Fozzy
Joined: 02 Sep 2005
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First job I got when I moved down here to Oklahoma was a real doosie... I went to work one day and refused to drive 5 of the 6 trucks in the yard. Most of them had MAJOR brake and or steering problems or both (parts actually hanging from the trucks and or missing) and were (to me anyway) undrivable. I left with the only survivor (cracked windshield and all) and went to Dallas and came back to reload. I entered the plant and of course saw one of the trucks that I had refused to drive coming out of the plant. I stopped the guy and ask if the mechanics had fixed it... he looked at me like :?: . I popped the hood and showed him the brake chamber hanging by the hose. He just hopped back inside and drove away towards Dallas. I hooked to my next load and realized that the trailer was missing all of the lights and most of the fender (pnuematics) on the left rear and that it had THREE inside flats..
I unhooked from it and just drove to the yard and went home... This is one of the reasons that I laugh when I hear about companies that cannot find anyone for their "great opportunities". |
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Blind Driver
Joined: 12 Apr 2006
Posts: 496
Location: New Albany, IN
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| Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Just drive it slowely to the junk yard. Might "might" give you something for it :lol: |
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classicxl
Joined: 08 Nov 2004
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Location: Rosemount MN
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| Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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| nice company with trucks like that on the road. Hope you get a truck that is safe to drive. your life and life of others is more important than any money |
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