Truck Driving Jobs

Skywalker · Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:28 pm Post subject:

Tumbleweed wrote: There are a lot of good companies and finding one wont be a problem. However, be prepared to be out 2 weeks at a time. Some companies will get you to the house on the weekends, but, it almost always means less miles and a smaller check. As far as companies go, check out Heartland Express. They have OTR and regional lanes and the pay is about as good as it gets for company drivers. (.50cpm)

Before you buy into that ...you'd best look for the "hooks".... as in "up to", and find out exactly where it applies...and the rest of the information regarding them before you consider them to be the "holy grail". Lets just place them in the "caveat emptor" area...... 8)

Skywalker · Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:35 pm Post subject:

AlexJ81 wrote:
USX payscale is a little weird to someone who doesn't understand it. But its far better than alot of that I've seen. Mainly if you're a newbie. Most companies start newbies out at .25-.28 cpm. USX .32-.35 Now whats wrong with that?

Your experience in "payscales" appears to be limited.... :D Not much to understand about USX's payscales....more miles to the run = less cpm per mile. Nothing tricky about that. More miles, more the driver gets "screwed" and the more profit the company makes... nothing tricky about that.

And when you stop to consider its paid as HHG short miles...its a royal shafting :shock: :? There's alot wrong with that.... :x

Skywalker · Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject:

AlexJ81 wrote: Skywalker wrote: AlexJ81 wrote:
USX payscale is a little weird to someone who doesn't understand it. But its far better than alot of that I've seen. Mainly if you're a newbie. Most companies start newbies out at .25-.28 cpm. USX .32-.35 Now whats wrong with that?

Your experience in "payscales" appears to be limited.... :D Not much to understand about USX's payscales....more miles to the run = less cpm per mile. Nothing tricky about that. More miles, more the driver gets "screwed" and the more profit the company makes... nothing tricky about that.

And when you stop to consider its paid as HHG short miles...its a royal shafting :shock: :? There's alot wrong with that.... :x

To someone looking in from the outside it is weird. Paid per load, per trip. Most trips given to newbies are 300-400 miles, paid at .35 cpm. The rate of pay doesn't go down unless the trip is 900+, in which case the pay rate sucks a little.

Yup, the payrate does "suck", and it even sucks at their 35 cpm rate... since its HHG short miles, so either way it just "sucks". I guess you think a "shafting" at a couple of cpm more is just a little less painful.....

Quote: And as far as my experience in payscales being limited, duh. I'm a rookie. You seem to be another old timer who thinks they know everythign there is to know about everything.

No, you're wrong....and there is a significant "error" in your thought process... I am not an old timer who thinks he knows everything, and I am not arrogant enough to even begin thinking that. I simply know what I know, and I limit my comments to what I know. That which I know nothing about, I keep my mouth shut. Discretion is the better part of valor. You may wish to embrace the thought.

Quote: And someone like me who is new is a complete fool.

If that is your claim to fame, and a mantle you choose to wear.... then so be it. But if you think that USX's pay schedule is a good thing,..... uh, you are somewhat validating the claim you made above. :D

Quote: That's ok though, most of your senior driver friends are no different than you. (and people wonder why most of us usually keep our radios off)

Ummm, I find my humor in your "questionable" musings... since you know nothing of me, nor do you have a clue as to who my social circle is comprised of.... I think if you actually spent a little time reading my past posts.... I think it more than possible that you would feel foolish about your allegations toward me. Along with keeping your CB off, I might suggest that until you aware of a bit more fact....than you apparently posess.... that you keep a lid on your musings..... lest you make a fool of yourself.

Since you fired first.... Might I say that I suspect that you have and frequently wear a t-shirt with this on the front and back:

??

mikey4069 · Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 560 Location: northern cali

How long has this uglymutt been driving ?

mikey4069 · Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 560 Location: northern cali

Us Xpress is not bad company treated me well for 2 yrs . They have bad and good things about them what company dosen't . I like how people tell all the bad about a company they have never worked for. How long do you have to drive for to be a senior driver ?

Skywalker · Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:45 pm Post subject:

AlexJ81 wrote: Everyone likes to down EVERY company that will hire new drivers. Of course, most of them are not great, heck some of them aren't worth a dime.

No, that is not necessarily so. Some of the companies that hire newbies are lousy, while others are well above average and even good. Its sorting out which is which that is the trick.

Quote: My question is where else are we supposed to go until we have a year or so under our belt?

Ask questions, sort through the answers....read, lurk, read some more, lurk some more. DO your homework....

Quote: Why do certain people have to down every company that someone has a question about?

Asked and answered.

Have you bothered to actually read the comments and do a comparison, or do you prefer to be a stodgy lemming hell bent to march to the cliff then hence into the sea?

Quote: Being so wise, these people most certainly should understand that we have to start somewhere. (as has everyone)

But what do I know about anything ?? I'm new, I know nothing.

Ahhhh, grasshopper, that you are so humble....

Most of us who started long ago....did so way before this thing called the "internet" was publicly accessible.....so we had to do our legwork the old fashioned way....and things were more difficult then, believe me on that.

Those of us that post here, and who try to help those of you that are new to this game....do so because we want to, not because we get a vicarious thrill out of it.... For the most part we get nothing, absolutely nothing in return....unless someone emails a thank you note.....

What you need to do is sit back, take a deep breath, read, and digest the information and take things with a grain of salt..... if you are as new as you say you are, then you really have little basis for comparison of anything except a preconcieved self administered predjudiced formed by your own mind..... Might I suggest that you and some of the others spend some time using the search function and find some of the answers to your questions and maybe these answers will also clue you in to why some of us answer the way we do.... :D :D

Luke · Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 13 Location: Dayton, Ohio

I'm a newb and don't have my CDL yet, but after lurking on the board a while it seems to me that everyone has companies they like or dislike.

This board also seems to have companies it likes and dislikes.

But when someone questions why a trucking company has a sliding pay scale based on how many miles the load travels (not necessarily with the same driver) that is a valid question.

This seems kind of goofy to me... So customer X you want this load to go 1200 miles. Well since we pay our drivers 20% less for loads like that we decided to pass the savings on to you....

Does this mean you can't make money at USX -- no. Does this mean you shouldn't drive for USX -- no. Does this mean you should be aware of the mileage policy before you take a job with them -- yes.

From one newb to another -- pay attention to what is said on the boards. It can make a lot of difference in the company you choose.

dk132 · Joined: 08 Oct 2006 Posts: 242 Location: Canyon Lake ,Texas

Luke wrote: I'm a newb and don't have my CDL yet, but after lurking on the board a while it seems to me that everyone has companies they like or dislike.

This board also seems to have companies it likes and dislikes.

But when someone questions why a trucking company has a sliding pay scale based on how many miles the load travels (not necessarily with the same driver) that is a valid question.

This seems kind of goofy to me... So customer X you want this load to go 1200 miles. Well since we pay our drivers 20% less for loads like that we decided to pass the savings on to you....

Does this mean you can't make money at USX -- no. Does this mean you shouldn't drive for USX -- no. Does this mean you should be aware of the mileage policy before you take a job with them -- yes.

From one newb to another -- pay attention to what is said on the boards. It can make a lot of difference in the company you choose.

Well said Luke... Its all in how you take the feedback you asked for. I am guilty of asking things that have been asked before. Its all in how you take it.

Malaki86 · Joined: 28 Aug 2004 Posts: 2125 Location: West Virginia

And don't forget - the average length of haul for a solo driver is 450 miles per load - so about 80% of the time you'll be in the 'top' of the pay scale. About 15% of my loads hit the 600-900, and only 3 or 4 hit the 900+.

Just so you know.

-FlyByNight- · Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:54 pm Post subject:

Malaki86 wrote: And don't forget - the average length of haul for a solo driver is 450 miles per load - so about 80% of the time you'll be in the 'top' of the pay scale. About 15% of my loads hit the 600-900, and only 3 or 4 hit the 900+.

Just so you know.

Sounds like a steady diet of over nighters to me, which at a minimum gets old REAL quick and eats up your logbook and at a maximum can make you want to perforate your brain with a bullet. However, not before going postal on dispatch first! :lol:

Malaki86 · Joined: 28 Aug 2004 Posts: 2125 Location: West Virginia

Call the recruiting deptartment at the carriers you're interested in. Ask them their average length of haul per load for a solo. You'll find most are in the 350-500 mile range.

-FlyByNight- · Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:41 am Post subject:

Malaki86 wrote: Call the recruiting deptartment at the carriers you're interested in. Ask them their average length of haul per load for a solo. You'll find most are in the 350-500 mile range.

These are my total paid miles from just my last eight loads. I'm using these simply because they're my most recent and all that's in this load book so far. That and I'm too lazy to get up and grab another load book. :lol: Mind you, I wasn't a happy camper getting those first three short runs in a row, but they come in spurts and freight has been slow, so I didn't complain. Even with one under 500, two under 600 and one under 700, I'm still averaging 975 miles per load. The point I'm trying to make is that yeah, we all have to do our share of short runs here and there, but I would NEVER accept that averaging 350-500 is just part of running solo.

475+684+555+1,392+566+1,669+968+1,496=7805/8=975.625

Skywalker · Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:22 am Post subject:

Luke wrote: I'm a newb and don't have my CDL yet, but after lurking on the board a while it seems to me that everyone has companies they like or dislike.

This board also seems to have companies it likes and dislikes.

But when someone questions why a trucking company has a sliding pay scale based on how many miles the load travels (not necessarily with the same driver) that is a valid question.

It seems that some of you aren't "getting the point" that some of us are trying to make. I personally have nothing against USX... they seem to be a good enough company....from what I know, and since I have never driven for them.... I can't really criticize them.... but I will take issue with their "payscale" because its a "hoser" and it is direct abuse heaped upon the driver, period!

Quote: This seems kind of goofy to me... So customer X you want this load to go 1200 miles. Well since we pay our drivers 20% less for loads like that we decided to pass the savings on to you....

They aren't passing on "jack squat" to the customer. Freight tarriffs are all "negotiated" and done under contract..... So its really, "We hose our drivers down to the tune of 20% less pay per mile for more miles", so we'll be happy to haul your freight and pocket the difference.

Quote: Does this mean you can't make money at USX -- no. Does this mean you shouldn't drive for USX -- no. Does this mean you should be aware of the mileage policy before you take a job with them -- yes.

Yes, while you might make "money" with a company like them...or any company that "shafts" their drivers with a sliding payscale that simply translates to MORE MILES equals LESS DOLLARS, you are doing nothing less than being complicit with the company and screwing yourself and your family while the company takes the extra profits and probably pays a big bonus to the "hoser" that developed that borderline criminal payscale....and lets not forget its figured in HHG short miles....so the unsuspecting and stupid will make alot less for alot more work. If thats what you want in life....go ahead and throw yourself on that sword. Me, I demand good pay for good work, and I get it!

Quote: From one newb to another -- pay attention to what is said on the boards. It can make a lot of difference in the company you choose.

How true, how true..... VERY TRUE!!

Skywalker · Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 7:35 am Post subject:

Truck Driving Jobs

Trucking Jobs

Truck Drivers

Trucking Companies

Class A Drivers.com