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Sonny Pruitt
Joined: 02 Sep 2006
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Location: Mahwah,NJ
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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General Trading, Carlstadt NJ
Straight pull off is 80 to 100$ Lumpers are the Polish Mafia and are the same outfit that does Key Food in the Bronx. Any breakdown and you pay through the nose. Ok you pay your 180.00. you look in the back of you truck and it is full of discarded shrink wrap and cardboard. They dont take the wrapping they cut off the skids! They throw it back in your truck! |
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GMAN
Joined: 13 Feb 2005
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Location: Tennessee
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| Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:09 am Post subject: |
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| I remember several years ago when I pulled a van, they loaded the wrapping back in my truck. Before leaving the dock, I got in the trailer and unloaded it on their dock. I figure that as much as I had to pay them to unload THEIR freight that they could dispose of THEIR trash. :wink: |
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classicxl
Joined: 08 Nov 2004
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Location: Rosemount MN
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| Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:12 am Post subject: |
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| got that right. SAM's club tried to throw pallets back in my van. I told them to take them off or I would dump them on the dock. They took them off. I refuse to deliver to grocery wharehouses anymore. |
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GMAN
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Location: Tennessee
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| Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:19 am Post subject: |
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| I think that anyone who deals with grocery warehouses deserves a premium in pay. :D I have no intention of EVER delivering to another grocery warehouse. I normally don't have to worry about that with a flat bed or step deck. The only way I would deliver to a grocery warehouse is to have a clause in the contract where I would be paid very well for sitting and waiting on them and that they would pay for their own lumpers. It is not my responsibility to pay for their labor to unload and repack THEIR freight. Since most carriers cave in to these extortionists, that is not likely to happen. :evil: |
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classicxl
Joined: 08 Nov 2004
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Location: Rosemount MN
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| Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:21 am Post subject: |
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| I hear that. My first time at a safeway wharehouse I sat there for 14 hrs waiting for them to finish. Could not do anything I was a company driver then and my dispatcher just said that is normal |
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GMAN
Joined: 13 Feb 2005
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Location: Tennessee
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| Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:13 am Post subject: |
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| It may be normal, but still isn't right. I think it time to change the norm. :wink: |
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solo379
Joined: 14 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:24 am Post subject: |
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classicxl wrote: My first time at a safeway wharehouse I sat there for 14 hrs waiting for them to finish. Could not do anything I was a company driver then....
And what would you do, being an O/O? :roll:
Unless you have pre arrange everything in writing, in your contract.... |
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Hardtime196
Joined: 12 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:52 pm Post subject: Grocery Warehoses.. |
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Friend,
I pulled a reefer for over 10 years, every warehose that you go two, weather its sysco, us foods, walmart, piggly wiggly, food lion, a otr driver is most always treated just like a 3 class person and you give up most of you rights at the guard shack..
This is the main reason that i parked my reefer at home and hooked my step deck back up, the difference in the people , you deal with is like night and day ..
Best of wishes.... |
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Sonny Pruitt
Joined: 02 Sep 2006
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Location: Mahwah,NJ
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| Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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I have a regular run of ltl to all the major whole in the walls eg US Foods
Allentown, Pittston and Englwood. Sysco in Philly. (small wood)United Natural Foods etc. The pay is decent but I have been going to some of these places weekly for a year and still have not broken the ice with some of these miserable essobees. |
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Windwalker
Joined: 22 Oct 2005
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Location: Holiday, FL
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OverTheRoad wrote: GMAN wrote: The government seems so hell bent on regulating this industry. I am amazed that they have never addressed this aspect. I suppose organized crime doesn't mess with organized crime. :roll:
Ouch that was below the belt GMAN.... try to keep the gloves up. :D :P :shock:
By the way.... I AGREE. :)
I agree with Gman. And NO THAT WAS NOT BELOW THE BELT... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
There are now a number of locations that have "lumper service" the OWNS ALL THE EQUIPMENT and you will not get your load unloaded without them. You don't have a choice. You MUST hire them. With one recent load, I informed the broker that I was not making a dime on the load, and if I had to deal with lumpers at the receiving end, the load was going to stay right where it was. I would not take it. I guess the broker arranged for, and paid for, the lumper because I never even saw one, much less heard from one. But other guys were hiring them. And, actually, I did make a few dimes off that load. |
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Bigmon
Joined: 13 Jan 2006
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Location: S. Cal.
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| Let the Mexican drivers do these loads and see how long they last. |
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GMAN
Joined: 13 Feb 2005
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Location: Tennessee
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| Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| If enough people refused to take loads to these grocery warehouses, who shake down owner operators and carriers, things might change. They either do what is right or they buy their own trucks to haul their own products. Another tact might be to simply refuse to pay a lumper to unload your truck. If they don't want to unload it at their expense, then take the load back to where you picked it up. |
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Sonny Pruitt
Joined: 02 Sep 2006
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Location: Mahwah,NJ
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I thought that when the HOS changed there would be a shake up of the food warehouse industry. It never happened.
Not only do you have to watch out for what food whse you deliver to but you also have to know which shippers going to the warehouses to avoid.
Just about anything out of Brenigsville,Pa(Dial,Kellogs,Nestle,Millard whse, Americold) are pains with their appts and usually get a packing list a foot thick.
I only use a handful of brokers so I pretty much know the lumper will be provided.
Too bad they don't provide a checker too. |
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beachbum2
Joined: 29 Aug 2006
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You're 100% right GMAN.
When I pulled a reefer for an o/o (b4 I bought my first truck) I sat at a Tyson plant IN a door for 11 hours. The load went to New Mexico and finalized in Seattle. I had a good paying load of Christmas trees to pu in Oregon after this load. My pay was 26% of gross and I could book my own loads. I was ALWAYS charged to get empty, but was reinbursed by the o/o. Still pissed me off and you never knew how much it would cost, especially if there was breakdown.
I was told they didn't have enough product for the Washington drop and to go ahead and run to NM. I got on the computer and found a insulation load going up to Mt. Vernon Washington . I went to the office and told them to take off their chicken.
A red faced suit came out and said "You are loaded and must deliver on time". I told him HE broke the contract, not me and to take their chicken off my trailer or I'll start throwing in on the dock. After some calls back and forth to my boss, they pulled it off and I ran the insulation load. I was on time with the Christmas tree pu and I felt sooooo good that whole week I can't describe it!
We should all stand up to the jerks who think they are better than us. If we are late, well shame on us, but if they are behind...oh well... It's time for all of us to stand together and demand fair treatment. I'll get off my soapbox now. sorry |
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