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CHCarriers



Joined: 29 Aug 2005
Posts: 55
Location: Charlotte NC

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:32 pm    Post subject: Grocery Warehouses  

I've never been to any to deliver loads but some people have said that they are all crap-holes...will take forever to get unloaded,even if you have an appointment time and they are just and all around pain in the rear.. is that true?

The particular warehouse in question is in Elloree SC but any info on how it is unloading at any of them will be appreciated


Bones
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Jackrabbit379



Joined: 22 Oct 2005
Posts: 4741
Location: Wichita Falls,Tx

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:27 pm    Post subject:  

I have heard that,but,Ive never pulled reefers OTR. I have the last 3 years,but locally. It seems like,all reefers are floor stacked,because almost everytime I pick up a backhaul at SYSCO Dallas,the OTR drivers are always having to fork out money for lumpers. Either that,or the warehouse guys arent using their pallet jacks to unload the trucks.
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badtothebone



Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Posts: 40

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:16 pm    Post subject:  

Actually the problem at most Sysco houses is they want it stacked on their pallets and usually 48 to the pallet. Secondly....Sysco usually wants you to use a lumper that is why you see what you see...not all houses.

OTR reefers aren't stacked on the floor, air has to circulate or you will have other issues.

As far as taking forever to deliver....be on time not usually a major problem it's when you're late their will be issues.
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Jackrabbit379



Joined: 22 Oct 2005
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Location: Wichita Falls,Tx

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:13 pm    Post subject:  

Yeah,those SYSCO people want stuff done their way,or you hit the highway. :P
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solo379



Joined: 14 Feb 2004
Posts: 3145

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Grocery Warehouses  

CHCarriers wrote: I've never been to any to deliver loads but some people have said that they are all crap-holes...will take forever to get unloaded,even if you have an appointment time and they are just and all around pain in the rear.. is that true?



As a general rule, yes! But of course there is an exceptions!
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CHCarriers



Joined: 29 Aug 2005
Posts: 55
Location: Charlotte NC

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:35 pm    Post subject:  

Well, I gotta try it atleast once, its going to complete a daily run I've got lined up IF it works out.
If I get burnt, oh well. But if it works out, hooray!!

Will post after I run one to see how it works out, or just how big of a nightmare it can be! lol

Thanks for the replies
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yoopr



Joined: 01 Dec 2004
Posts: 12866

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Grocery Warehouses  

CHCarriers wrote: I've never been to any to deliver loads but some people have said that they are all crap-holes...will take forever to get unloaded,even if you have an appointment time and they are just and all around pain in the rear.. is that true?

The particular warehouse in question is in Elloree SC but any info on how it is unloading at any of them will be appreciated


Bones

Only going by my own experience with Grocery whse's. The ones I went to always seemed to be in the worst areas of the Towns-Many require a Lumper(Extortion) and my appointments always seemed to be at O Dark 30.
There are exceptions though.
Don't know anything about the whse you're talking about though.
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jroqueman



Joined: 24 Jun 2006
Posts: 200
Location: Ohio

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:56 pm    Post subject:  

I pulled reefers for six months when I first started driving. It took me that long to discover that pulling reefers was not for me. The receivers were jerks. You would get loaded 8 hours late. In the meantime, your delivery appointment would stay the same. You would have to drive all night to make your appointment. Then they would say "Put your CB on channel 5 and we will call you when your door is ready." You ask them if they can knock on your truck so you can go to sleep. "We cannot do that." I am parked 200 freaking ft from your guard shack! My customers now are really glad to see me. Especially when I am delivering their new toy!
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GMAN



Joined: 13 Feb 2005
Posts: 9393
Location: Tennessee

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:29 pm    Post subject:  

I would not want to deal with these grocery warehouse people. I had enough of them when I pulled a van. Most of the time, especially when I am delivering to a construction site, the receivers are glad to see me. Like Jroqueman, when I pulled cars, I don't recall a single customer who wasn't glad to see me when I showed up. It is great when the receiver is glad to see you. These grocery warehouse people should be glad to see you with the scams the run with their employee lumpers. :evil:
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Sgt_D



Joined: 13 May 2006
Posts: 53
Location: Texas

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:01 pm    Post subject:  

Its not only reefers that go into these warehouses...I went into them with a dry van....and most of them you do use lumpers...the thing I find funny is at Wal-mart grocety warehouses, they rquire you use their lumpers, but at their dry good warehouses, the dock workers are Wal-mart employees...
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yoopr



Joined: 01 Dec 2004
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:09 pm    Post subject:  

Sgt_D wrote: Its not only reefers that go into these warehouses...I went into them with a dry van....and most of them you do use lumpers...the thing I find funny is at Wal-mart grocety warehouses, they rquire you use their lumpers, but at their dry good warehouses, the dock workers are Wal-mart employees...

Have you been to the fairly new Walmart distribution center near Albuquerque? It was being built when I lived there for a short while.
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Boracks



Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Posts: 6

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:32 am    Post subject:  

Even delivering dry goods in a van trailer is sometimes a pain in the butt. Mostly it's the lumper services these places use that burn me by being rude, making you wait while you watch the entire lumping crew stand on the side of the building and smoke. Or the forklift driver sit there and talk and laugh on his cell phone. Also the driver count they want you to do sometimes is a pain, I don't care to sit there and 'check off' every pallet of cereal or juice boxes this place gets. Either take the freight or don't, sitting there while they shuffle around is costing me money. I know a lot of these services are paid by the trailer they unload, but the unloaders themselves are sometimes paid hourly and in no rush.
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lojak



Joined: 11 May 2005
Posts: 141
Location: TN/NC

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:35 pm    Post subject:  

yoopr wrote: Sgt_D wrote: Its not only reefers that go into these warehouses...I went into them with a dry van....and most of them you do use lumpers...the thing I find funny is at Wal-mart grocety warehouses, they rquire you use their lumpers, but at their dry good warehouses, the dock workers are Wal-mart employees...

Have you been to the fairly new Walmart distribution center near Albuquerque? It was being built when I lived there for a short while.

I've been there. That's the place that caused me to stop shopping at Walmart unless absolutely necessary. There's a half hr line that stretches to the road to get to the guard shack so you can get a door assignment.... only they couldn't give me one b/c one of the 57 pcs of paper they have to fill out had the wrong number on it or something. So then I went around back and waited in the line to talk to the receiving people and she told me that she'd call me on the cb when I got a door. An hour later she called me in and told me what door to back into and then asked if I was going to unload it or pay Walmart to. I told her I guessed I'd pay walmart to. She said it would be $30.

I backed in to the door and unhooked to pull into the bobtail area. Two and a half hrs later they told me on the cb that it was unloaded to come in a get the paperwork. I asked the woman to sign a receipt so I could get reimbursed and she said she wasn't signing anything. So I told her she wasn't getting pd and went back out to call dispatch. They told me to pay her with a TCH check and I wouldn't need a receipt. I pd with the TCH check and found that there was a receipt that she hadn't bothered to mention included already.

I will not miss pulling a van....

Geez
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Windwalker



Joined: 22 Oct 2005
Posts: 2822
Location: Holiday, FL

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 5:56 pm    Post subject:  

The shipper loads the load onto pallets that are split and cracked. The food warehouse does not want them, so the load must be transferred to good pallets. At $20/pallet. What do they do to transfer them? Take a forklift that will grab the slip-sheet on top of the pallet, pull the product off, and place it on another pallet. Comes out to about $20/minute. For the whole load, it cost $285.00. And, NO, YOU CAN NOT DO IT YOURSELF. The lumper service owns all the equipment. If you want any kind of equipment to take the load off your trailer, the lumpers are the only ones qualified to operate it. I'd like to unload it myself. About 60 feet in HIGH-RANGE REVERSE, and hit the dock. But that might fold up the back of the trailer like an accordian. Keep me out of the food warehouses and I promise I won't kill anybody.
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GMAN



Joined: 13 Feb 2005
Posts: 9393
Location: Tennessee

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:46 am    Post subject:  

The government seems so hell bent on regulating this industry. I am amazed that they have never addressed this aspect. I suppose organized crime doesn't mess with organized crime. :roll:
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