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erickally
Joined: 06 Apr 2006
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Location: Oklahoma
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| Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 4:48 pm Post subject: Do new additives really save you fuel?? |
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| I was reading some information recently on some additives such as PS "Diesel Kleen" and Lucas Oil Products. They each claim to protect from excess wear but ALSO increasing miles per gallon. Anyone use them? Anyone tried them? Any thoughts or opinions on these would be appreciated. |
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SteveBooth
Joined: 18 May 2005
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| Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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CNN just did a segment on all those devices. They actually had a shop with a dyno and a test car under controlled circumstances and not a single product boosted mileage. In fact, every single one decreased a persons mileage.
Lets put it another way. If there was such a product for cars or trucks you would NOT have to advertise it. It would be on every news channel coast to coast. |
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Rev.Vassago
Joined: 04 Apr 2006
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Location: Green Bay, WI
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| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:57 am Post subject: |
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The only time I use additives is in the winter, to prevent gelling. When I use additives, I use Howe's.
As far as improving fuel mileage, I have my doubts, but there are some who swear by it.
The best thing for saving fuel is to lay off the gas pedal. Plain and simple. |
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yoopr
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| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:03 am Post subject: |
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Like Rev. says Anti-Gel in the winter is pretty much a must in the North country.
Lucas is a very good product |
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Rev.Vassago
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| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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yoopr wrote: Like Rev. says Anti-Gel in the winter is pretty much a must in the North country.
Lucas is a very good product
Last November when I parked the truck for a month, I filled up both tanks to the top, and added two gallons of Howe's to each tank (one gallon is supposed to be good for 300 gallons of fuel) :roll:
The darn thing STILL got slushy on me. :evil: |
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yoopr
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| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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| all the years I've driven I only froze up once and I never want that to happen again-what a Pain-happened down by you in Oshkosh. |
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Windwalker
Joined: 22 Oct 2005
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Location: Holiday, FL
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| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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For anti-gel, I use the red bottle of 9-1-1 in the last tankful before I shut it down. Get two of the smaller bottles and put one in each tank. Never had any problem, but if I do, I also carry a couple of bottles of "MELT-DOWN".
I think I liked the mechanical injectors better. Used a little anhydrous isopropal alcohol, about a quart in each tank and survived -54 F in Quebec City one time. Don't know what the wind chill was, but it was blowing. There were two of us running then, and the other guy had three pair of wool socks and a plastic bag over his fuel filter. |
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special k
Joined: 10 Jul 2005
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Location: Ontario Canada
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| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Vassago I'd take that as a hint to change additives. I used Howes one winter and it gelled up over Christmas holidays. Once was enough for me. |
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jroqueman
Joined: 24 Jun 2006
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Location: Ohio
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| Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:04 am Post subject: |
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| If the additives worked to increase your mileage, they would be put into the fuel before you bought it. With all of the energy conservation going on now, the fuel would have it added in. If those products were so great, the engine producers would recommend their use as well. |
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GMAN
Joined: 13 Feb 2005
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Location: Tennessee
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| Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:50 am Post subject: |
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| I have heard of some who swear that they improve their fuel mileage with Lucas. I think the cost is such that it would need to dramatically improve mileage to make it economical. Keeping up maintenance and watch how you drive will do as much as anything else. You could keep your speed at or below 70 and not constantly speed up and slow down that will help. Keep an eye on air filters can also help. When an air filter gets dirty it can drastically lower fuel mileage. You might be surprised at how much fuel mileage can improve by slowing to 65 mph. |
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watevr777
Joined: 14 Nov 2005
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Location: Louisiana
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| Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:57 am Post subject: |
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I have used Lucas and believed it works but for $ 21 a gallon the fuel savings was a break even to a $21 lose
As far as anti gel in the winter you need to start in Oct to get the water out of system
I run PPF year round add a bottle once a week (it mixes with water to remove from the tank ) plus other wonder drugs ... local parts store ( truck pro ) has it for $ 4 a bottle truck stops $ 6-7 a bottle |
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marcel27208
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| I dont think it works for everyone....i have a 2000 freightliner i run local, i fueled up 2 weeks ago on monday(675 bucks) ran 1,935 miles all week 7.14 miles per gallon.....this past week fueled up monday(693 bucks) with lucas fuel additive ran 2024 miles 7.33 miles per gallon..... and all loads were the same(weight wise) i dont think for $21-26 dollars that it pays for itself!! |
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gatime
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| Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| not no but hell NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Marmon man
Joined: 26 Jun 2006
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Location: Michigan
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| Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:00 am Post subject: |
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| i don't think that Lucas helps your milage, but it does have some nice injector cleaning agents in it. I have used it about once a month in my truck and i have only replaced one injector in almost 600,000 miles and my engine still runs very well. My tip? I always have my idle set at 800 rpm and if i'm sitting and need to idle i idle up to 1100. on a N-14 cummins i was told to always keep your oil pressure at 25 lbs. |
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GMAN
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Location: Tennessee
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| Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:11 am Post subject: |
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| If you want to clean your injectors, just go to any parts store and get a quart of automatic transmission fluid. Use about a pint in each tank when you fill up. It will clean the injectors and not cost nearly as much as some of these expensive lubricants. |
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