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GMAN
Joined: 13 Feb 2005
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Location: Tennessee
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| Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| It has become increasingly difficult for law abiding citizens to protect themselves. I no longer carry a gun with me because of the reasons Bush Bunny stated. You cannot possibly comply with the laws of every jurisdiction in which you travel. There are some crazy laws on the books in some states, such as New York, Massachusetts, etc., You see, they don't recognize the U.S. Constitution. They make their own rules. In addition, if you enter a military reservation, you could also be charged and convicted of weapons charges. I know of a couple of instances where this has happened. Crossing the Canadian border could land you in prison, a big fine and you could lose your truck. It just isn't worth it until laws are changed. There are also some crazy people out here with a CDL. They have no respect for themselves or anyone else out here. Just listen to the CB. :? |
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zz4guy
Joined: 10 Jul 2006
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Location: Marion, IA
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Ok forget carrying legally.
Could you hide it somewhere in the cab? I mean if I was delivering goods to south Chicago all the time I'd say to hell with the laws a and have a small pistol on board.
After all sitting in a square room is better than laying in a square box ;) |
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GMAN
Joined: 13 Feb 2005
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Location: Tennessee
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| I can't say that you can put a gun anywhere legally in your truck. There may be places where a gun would not readily be found, unless searched. You will need to check all jurisdictions to see what the laws are in those areas. You will still be taking a chance. |
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Windwalker
Joined: 22 Oct 2005
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Location: Holiday, FL
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:42 am Post subject: |
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zz4guy wrote: Ok forget carrying legally.
Could you hide it somewhere in the cab? I mean if I was delivering goods to south Chicago all the time I'd say to hell with the laws a and have a small pistol on board.
After all sitting in a square room is better than laying in a square box ;)
If I were delivering goods in south Chicago all the time, I'd find a different job. And FAST!!! |
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possum squat
Joined: 21 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 4:03 am Post subject: |
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By using "paint ball technolgy" you could build a device to shoot razor darts, or something.
I cant believe I said that...
but safety is important,and it should be understood and encourged. |
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terrylamar
Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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Location: Austin, TX
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| Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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| The rules that some of you are talking about is the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution. The Federal, State and Local Government are the ones not following the rule. For those of you who advocate "carrying a bat," if you check out all of those laws you will find you are breaking a number of them unless you are on your way to or from a baseball game. In this day of post 9/11 carrying a firearm should be mandatory. |
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shahan
Joined: 24 Apr 2005
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Location: baltimore, md
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| Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| There were also laws that blacks and women couldnt vote. When times change sometimes the law changes. If carrying a gun was mandatory I would have killed at least 2 people today. |
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terrylamar
Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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shahan wrote: There were also laws that blacks and women couldnt vote. When times change sometimes the law changes. If carrying a gun was mandatory I would have killed at least 2 people today.
We are not talking about a law, we are talking about the Constitution. Those laws were in contridiction the the Consitution and were struck down. There is a diference. If you can't countrol yourself, don't carry a firearm. But why interfer with my ability to carry one? If you wanted to kill someone today why didn't you pick up a bat and bash their heads in. A bat is a tool, is an inanimate object, just like a gun. |
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shahan
Joined: 24 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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| didnt have a bat |
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shahan
Joined: 24 Apr 2005
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Location: baltimore, md
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| Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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| I think law-abiding citizens should be able to carry a concealed weapon. Thats the law now and I think it is good the way it is. You make it sound like just anyone should be able to buy an uzi at 7-11 and wave it in the air. |
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terrylamar
Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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Location: Austin, TX
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| Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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shahan wrote: I think law-abiding citizens should be able to carry a concealed weapon. Thats the law now and I think it is good the way it is. You make it sound like just anyone should be able to buy an uzi at 7-11 and wave it in the air.
No, I don't. The Constitution says: "the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." I can both read and understand it. Any deviation from what it plainly says is unconstitutional. You are the one who said you would have killed two people today if you had a gun. I believe in responsible ownership. If you have these irresistable urges to kill people due to a lack of self control I think you are wise not to carry a firearm. You also might consider not drive a vehicle of any type because they can, potentially, kill many more people than a firearm can. |
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BigDaddyD
Joined: 23 Jul 2006
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Location: Colville, WA
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"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."
I don't see where trucking is a well regulated militia..... |
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terrylamar
Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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BigDaddyD wrote: "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."
I don't see where trucking is a well regulated militia.....
Because you don't understand the meaning of the words used two hundred years ago. It means the people, truck drivers are people. You are part of the Militia. Everyone of us are. If you are not ready to step up and defend your country, well, I for one don't see you as a real citizen, just a feeloader. Just my opinion. |
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BigDaddyD
Joined: 23 Jul 2006
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Location: Colville, WA
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| After spending 20 years in the Navy I can say I have stood and defended this country. And still I dont' want everyone walking around carrying firearms. |
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SteveBooth
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| Another option is to buy a fake gun off the web. It's legal and there is no way for someone to tell if it's real or not. I have a Para Ordinance 45 and I bought a fake one off the web and it's identical. |
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