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Should Anyone be fired for commiting adultery?
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Fozzy



Joined: 02 Sep 2005
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:36 am    Post subject: Should Anyone be fired for commiting adultery?  

http://www.local6.com/news/6833079/detail.html
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Windwalker



Joined: 22 Oct 2005
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Location: Holiday, FL

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:44 am    Post subject:  

As far as I'm concerned, it's behind closed doors, right??? What is the next thing they will demand... That I open my bedroom for their inspection?????
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gypsybrie



Joined: 12 Nov 2004
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:53 am    Post subject:  

If it's happening on the job and/or with co-workers then maybe. If it's happening on their time off then it's none of our business.

The article said "Pinellas County sheriff's Chief Deputy Dennis Fowler said he has seen so many cases of deputy-involved cases of adultery leading to 911 calls that he has decided to suspend deputies over the action."

Wonder what that's all about? Why would you call 911 afterwards? Maybe there's more that they're not telling?
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littleman2



Joined: 03 Jul 2004
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Location: Washington State

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:11 am    Post subject:  

here is how I see it. 1 I am against cheating on ones spouse period. 2 I can't controll what others do. 3 its not against the law people do not go to jail for it. and 4 if there both concenting adaults well they are big boys and girls and it should be left up to them to work it out. not the work place. even if it is between co workers.
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yoopr



Joined: 01 Dec 2004
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:25 pm    Post subject:  

you all are getting baited-don't fall for it-he's not as bright as he'd like to link he is
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Fozzy



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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:18 pm    Post subject:  

Too late Yoopr.... They already admitted that what two adults do in their own time is no one (especially the governments) business. The irony is really funny to me.

I actually agree with this sheriff! Taking a vow and living up to it is a requirement in my book. If as an employer I ever caught an employee cheating on their spouse, I'd fire them immediately. If they will lie and cheat on the person they vowed in front of their families and community to love and cherish forever, what are my chances of trusting them with my interests when I'm not related to me at all?
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rikki_359



Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Location: N of Ft Worth, TX

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:07 pm    Post subject:  

I never thought about it, but I agree with you, yoopr. Sure made me think
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Windwalker



Joined: 22 Oct 2005
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:53 pm    Post subject:  

Fozzy wrote: Too late Yoopr.... They already admitted that what two adults do in their own time is no one (especially the governments) business. The irony is really funny to me.

I actually agree with this sheriff! Taking a vow and living up to it is a requirement in my book. If as an employer I ever caught an employee cheating on their spouse, I'd fire them immediately. If they will lie and cheat on the person they vowed in front of their families and community to love and cherish forever, what are my chances of trusting them with my interests when I'm not related to me at all?

Sorry, but if it's on my own time, it is absolutely none of your business.

Let's say that I do work for you. When I get off work, I suck down a case oif beer. Then, the next morning, I show up for work, sober and ready for work... It does not affect you or your production. There are also states that have laws about "WRONGFUL DISCHARGE". You could stand to really get tied up in a legal tangle you don't want.

Also, what do you do if the spouse knows about it and approves of it? When I lived in Philadelphia, there was a cop up the street that had two kids with his wife, and his "live-in" girlfriend was pregnant with his third. They all knew about each other and approved of it.

In CA, I met a woman at a truck stop. I thought she was waiting for a ride. Actually she was. She said her husband would be right back, that he took his wife to the pharmacy to fill a prescription and would be back to pick her up. She had been in an abusive marriage for eight years, and her "husbands" other wife (legal wife) was a nurse at the hospital when her husband nearly killed her by beating her. Instead of going home for more of the same, she went home with the nurse and her husband. After eight years, she said it was the best move she ever made.

Now, how do you treat that? Both women know about each other and live in the same house and share the same man. If the spouse does not feel any vows were broken, are you going to tell that spouse that he/she is wrong? Are you going to dictate their lives?

When it's their time, and it does not directly affect your production, you have no say in the matter. It comes under the heading of civil rights.
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Fozzy



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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:16 pm    Post subject:  

So you're saying that adultry is OK? would you also you saythat someone can commit adultry and still be a moral / religious person or be seen as a pillar of the community?
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Windwalker



Joined: 22 Oct 2005
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:25 pm    Post subject:  

Fozzy wrote: So you're saying that adultry is OK? would you also you saythat someone can commit adultry and still be a moral / religious person or be seen as a pillar of the community?

Go to Chicago, and talk to a few of the people that still personally remember Al Capone. See what they say about him.

Then look at three different men. One had prostitutes, one drank a fifth of scotch every night, and the third didn't drink, cheat on his wife or anything else. Didn't even smoke.

Roosevelt had prostitutes, Winston Churchill drank, and Adolf Hitler did none of it.

Think about it.
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Fozzy



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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:50 pm    Post subject:  

Windwalker wrote: Fozzy wrote: So you're saying that adultry is OK? would you also you saythat someone can commit adultry and still be a moral / religious person or be seen as a pillar of the community?

Go to Chicago, and talk to a few of the people that still personally remember Al Capone. See what they say about him.

Then look at three different men. One had prostitutes, one drank a fifth of scotch every night, and the third didn't drink, cheat on his wife or anything else. Didn't even smoke.

Roosevelt had prostitutes, Winston Churchill drank, and Adolf Hitler did none of it.

Think about it.

I've thought about it. read about it and can believe that religion has little to nothing to do with the "morality" or decency of a person.

Roosevelt was a cause of a lot of the social ills in this country today, The US government became something that it was never meant to be under his watchful eye. he outright hid the fact that he was crippled from the American public in fears of being removed from office. He basically filled concentration camps with American citizens and allowed the local governments to steal their property.

Winston Churchill was a man of his time, and one of the greatest leaders of mankind, he was of course made to be socially unacceptable after the war and was tossed into the dumper post haste.

Adolph Hitler from almost the beginning was being pumped so full of illicit drugs that it was that which caused the high levels of paranoia that pretty much caused the whole third Reich's meltdown. All of these people (and Stalin too) were of course Christians... That's of course not normally discussed in most circles.
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BikerDad



Joined: 15 Jan 2006
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:32 pm    Post subject:  

Yes. As an employer, my perspective would be that any employee who isn't going to be faithful to their spouse, can't be relied upon to be faithful to the employer. Any single employee who would knowingly compromise the marriage of somebody would also be willing to knowingly compromise the employer's business.

Employers don't fire their employees who are caught shoplifting down at the local Smarty-Mart because the employee has broken the law on their own time. They fire the thief because they can no longer be trusted. :sad:
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redsfan



Joined: 13 Jan 2006
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Location: Near Cincinnati, OH

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 5:32 am    Post subject:  

The article left a few questions for me and I agree with the trust factor 100%. I couldn't tell if he was stating that this was during work time or just anytime. Also, it appeared that he has not done it yet, but said that he will in the future. Sounds to me like they're getting advanced warning. To that I say if you break the rules you knew what you had coming.

I've seen first-hand what adultery does to a company. Little different scenario, our CEO was screwing his secretary. The big problem was the CEO was married to the owner's daughter. For a guy as smart as he was, he was dumber than a hoe handle. They fired both on the spot, but the problem was that it went on for two years and everyone in the company knew it was going on way before the owner and his son did. It caused a lot of turmoil in the company and productivity was at a stand still for quite a while. The two left the company and started their own (a competitor). They sued for wrongful termination, company counter-sued based upon them using proprietary information to start their business and of course, the wife sued for divorce. The former CEO lost his butt on all 3 suits. Last I heard he was struggling to keep his head above water. This idiot threw it all away for nothing.
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solo379



Joined: 14 Feb 2004
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:10 am    Post subject:  

Bill Clinton, was not fired! :lol:
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littleman2



Joined: 03 Jul 2004
Posts: 1954
Location: Washington State

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:32 am    Post subject:  

Also to point out what fozzy said earlyer is this Quote: Roosevelt was a cause of a lot of the social ills in this country today, The US government became something that it was never meant to be under his watchful eye. he outright hid the fact that he was crippled from the American public in fears of being removed from office. He basically filled concentration camps with American citizens and allowed the local governments to steal their property

Roosevelt was a communist plain flat and simple.
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